[islander]

lol i try to get out but they suck me back in. lol i wasnt going to reply in this thread again but wtf if you workout at some super pimp high end super star gym and the trainer there cant tell you what your problem is I doubt someone on the interent can but hey you never know. Sounds like your just starting out, Im geussing that uneasy feeling you get will pass with time and more experience.

[mikeh40+]

Originally Posted by DEnd44

so, you squat (push) 185 for 3 reps..but you deadlift (pull) 135 for a max?..i mean call me crazy, but theres really a slim shot thats possible..not being a douche, its just i feel that weeding out the riff-raff on this site is never a bad idea..whatever, im done here..cheers to all.

not going to call you crazy bro, but you gotta remember that each is weak or strong in different lifts, if thats his max, than there is nothing wrong with that, its his max, while you or myself my see it differently it has no bearing on what someone else can max , DEnd44 keep working toward getting your strength up and keeping your form good, it will come, just takes a different amount of time for each person to finally break through and things will start to fall into place, stay motivated and consistent, good luck with your training.

[odinlives]

Originally Posted by Fat Dave

How about a real dead lift question.

What is the consensus about dead lifts being a back or a leg exercise?

Should I do regular dead lifts on back days and stiff legged dead lifts on leg days? Or can I just do regulars and call it both legs and back???

I do Sldl on leg day right after squats and I do reg deads on back day. Seems to work out fine. I think if you did them both the same day you would really strain your lower back.

[lucifuge]

OP, drop the weight and nail your form. Forget about how many plates are on the bar and learn how to do the movement.

In related content, I use a trap bar now for deads, so it's a little more quad dominant... but I looooove it. I train deads 5x5 on leg day, followed by front squats.

[DEnd44]

Originally Posted by lucifuge

OP, drop the weight and nail your form. Forget about how many plates are on the bar and learn how to do the movement.

In related content, I use a trap bar now for deads, so it's a little more quad dominant... but I looooove it. I train deads 5x5 on leg day, followed by front squats.

so, you like a more quad dominant dead followed by a more quad dominant (front) squat? quadzillaaaaaaaaaa lol

[sowmyabhattacharya]

Originally Posted by DEnd44

so, you squat (push) 185 for 3 reps..but you deadlift (pull) 135 for a max?..i mean call me crazy, but theres really a slim shot thats possible..not being a douche, its just i feel that weeding out the riff-raff on this site is never a bad idea..whatever, im done here..cheers to all.

wuteva........

[odinlives]

Yeah I was doing the trap bar dead for a while and I thought I would go back and give the straight bar a shot and I have to say so far I prefer the straight bar because I can really feel it more in my back. Not just the lower back but my entire back. I just work the hell out of my quads on leg day so it's overkill for me to do trap bar 3 days later.

[DEnd44]

thats what i as thinking also, but to each their own..

im sure you wouldnt do it if it wasnt working for you.

[lucifuge]

I dunno, I just never really liked the 'feel' of conventional deads that much. It always seemed to be hitting my lower back more than anything else. Probably doesn't help that I have an almost irrational fear of hurting my lower back either...

One day I tried the trap bar and it felt great. If I keep my hips kinda high I can still target my back more than quads, but even when I drop into the hole for the start I feel it throughout my entire back.

[sowmyabhattacharya]

dl's getin beter
rom increasing. havnt tested 1rm since some time and will test in a month

[tylerp]

ha ha pretty sure this thread wasted a little bit of all our lives. haha

[benchhell198]

Originally Posted by DEnd44

i can see someone falling back due to various flexibility issues if they were doing something such as body squats, or something of the like..but when deadlifting, the weight counterbalances you..if you are using a weight that you can at least grip, your flexibility issues would result in you either getting stuck (not being able to lock out) or rounding your back.

in which case, either:
1. stretch
2. stop trying to stroke your ego and drop the weight to something you can handle

YOU SHOULD FEEL LIKE YOUR GOING TO FALL BACKWARDS TO A POINT!! IF A 200 POUND MAN GOES TO DEAD 400 POUNDS AND TIMES IT RIGHT AND KEEPS HIS BACK FLAT AND DOES NOT ROUND HIS SHOULDERS, THE WHEN YOU PULL YOU BE ABLE TO SUBTRACT YOUR BODYWEIGHT FROM THE BAR WEIGHT SO 400 SHOULD FEEL LIKE 200, IF YOU HAVE TIGHT HAMS DO COAN STIFF LEGS AND STRECH. OR ROMAN DEADS GOOD LUCK

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[RAGEN2008]

Possibly try one of those bars made just for dead lifts with the middle formed around you.

[HuskerPower]

Have you tried lifting sumo style? or are you sticking with conventional? Sumo style will give you the extra stability

[sowmyabhattacharya]

actually, i love sumo style, but i know my back is wesk, so conventional deads were staple. now, i am trying the german volume training, with one difference- 5 sets of squats n 5 of deads, followed by 3 sldl sets n 2 leg curls.

[Addicted2Liftin]

Originally Posted by sowmyabhattacharya

yeah sure, m bullin around.
ear infection, yeah, i had a major 1 about a year back.
i said d stuff to point out dat ders not any one wid a lot of experience in my gym
trust me, i m nt 1 of d kinda guys whus got tym ta bs around on forums like dis. mayb u didnt have d same prob s i do, but m nt a lyin sob!!
only when i m goin on d ecentric portion of the lift and have my hip to about knee level do i face d prob.

Are you serious with the way you type. Do you think thats cool?...I cant get over how ridiculous it is...you must be joking....please tell me you dont talk that way because if you do if feel bad for you....it was a total waste of energy even writing this on my behalf, but i had to comment,

-A2L

[rjohnson5481]

What a joke. lol
All of this because some illiterate dumbass can't bend over.