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Old 02-14-2009, 11:43 AM   #121
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Sorry to hear of your family's misfortunes. That has to be tough especially since they were just going to retire. That's where it really hurts but for young or middle aged people we will be fine. I'm looking past the sucky part (now) and down the road where inefficient businesses and way of life will be cut out.
We had a similar housing/financial bubble burst in the late 80's early 90's. Fortunately back then there weren't as many inefficient businesses around and things weren't so interconnected/interdependent. Now though there are more inefficient businesses and a LOT more interconnectedness/interdependency. The dominoes are standing much closer together so it's harder to stop the collapse once one starts em all toppling. I'm trying to look ahead too, but also trying to stay focused on the present tasks at hand.

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I have noticed a lot more older people.. (ones that should be retired and watching there grandchildren grow up age).. Are back to work, as cashiers, bagger's at grocery stores, stocking shelves or working at the gas station to make ends meet. I look at those people and ask myself why, or how could it come to this.. These are there golden years. And yet there struggling just to pay there bills.

Gas is back up to 2.05 a gallon for regular unleaded in Pa. or at least in my area.
Gas is 2.30 here (today).

My grandmother (who is in her eighties) was working a minimum wage job till not too long ago. Fortunately my family has had enough recent great-grandkids that we all pulled resources and convinced her to look after them as her job and get paid for it, which isn't that easy on her, but she at least gets to spend time with them instead of wasting it at some crappy minimum wage job and rarely seeing them. It's also nice to see that the youngest generation we have will actually know her as a person and have lots of memories of her, rather than just a few scattered ones.
 
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:24 AM   #122
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layoffs have finally hit sprints retail stores!!!! they laid off our hosts with no warning but gave them like 8 weeks pay plus an additional grand and they get all there vacation time plus comission. so they made out ok but will be rough to find a job.
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Old 02-17-2009, 09:43 AM   #123
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first quarter #'s will be in soon.. That is also a determining factor on layoffs.. if you make projected sales or commission..good if not...more cutbacks are made to compensate.
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:40 PM   #124
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first quarter #'s will be in soon.. That is also a determining factor on layoffs.. if you make projected sales or commission..good if not...more cutbacks are made to compensate.
sprint has been loosing over a million customers every quarter for the last year and a half, last year they cut our raises, then this year sprint is laying off and cutting 401k contributions and tuition reimbersment. im not bitter i understand from a business side why the did what they did.
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How Can the U.S. Economy Recover Without Manufacturing Capacity?
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"You can't put people to work in American factories that don't exist."


The strength of the federal economic stimulus package is seriously diluted by the fact that many of the manufactured goods that will be purchased for the attempted recovery must be imported from outside the United States. America simply doesn't make lots of things, anymore. That means many billions of dollars that folks assumed would go towards fueling an American economic comeback, will instead provide work and paychecks to employees in other countries, that still have manufacturing bases. That's fine with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which is dominated by large multinational corporations - the same guys that began stripping the United States of manufacturing jobs decades ago.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce was one of the main lobbyists opposed to provisions that would have mandated that stimulus money go to U.S. companies. The Chamber is a U.S. organization in name only, like its finance capital comrades, the guys that gave the world such a bad case of the dreaded "American Disease," much of the planet is praying that cash-rich China will eventually bail everybody out.

The United States' lack of a manufacturing capacity makes it even less likely that anything resembling a lasting recovery can emerge from President Obama's approach to the economic crisis. The infrastructure projects that are supposed to be central to the recovery scheme are only valued at $150 billion - which is not much of a jolt, especially when much of what will have to be bought is only available in other countries, made by foreign workers. Barack Obama has put a huge emphasis on building a green economy. However, according to the New York Times , most of the sources of solar panels and wind turbines are located in Europe and Asia. There can be no green economy without a mass transit makeover of the United States, but the U.S. hasn't made subway and light rail cars in many years. They'd have to be imported.

"Most of the sources of solar panels and wind turbines are located in Europe and Asia."

Every product that must be imported for the infrastructure project means a watering down of the stimulus impact of the dollars spent. You can't put people to work in American factories that don't exist.

A true national recovery effort would mean re-industrialization, on a grand scale and a green model, through massive direct federal creation of state-owned industries independent of the finance capitalists who murdered American manufacturing and then blew up their own businesses on Wall Street. But this is already nearly impossible, since President Obama is committed to saving the banking class through unlimited infusions of public money, and then allowing these reborn zombies to resume their roles as lords of development. The bankster parasites have neither the capacity nor the intention to build anything other than mountains of debt for the rest of us. Therefore, Obama's partnership with them spells doom for national recovery.

Like Billy Preston said, " Nothin' from noth in' leaves nothin'."The U.S. cannot create the conditions for economic health without rebuilding a manufacturing capacity. And the remnants of Wall Street have nothing to contribute to an economic recovery, but an infinite capacity to steal.
 
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:59 AM   #126
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the stim package is a joke all by itself, plus bail out people who cant afford there houses for the mere reason they cant save money but dont bail out people that saved money and got laid off. get ready for socialism people its coming!!!! the administration of today is going ot turn us into a socialist country. just watch how all the health care reforma and other bs falls.
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