Democratic Congressman: Representatives Were Threatened With Martial Law In America Over Bailout Bill
Friday, Oct 3, 2008
A Democratic Congressman has warned that a panic atmosphere is being intentionally created in order to get the financial bailout billed passed, further stating that several members of Congress were told before Monday’s vote that martial law will be instigated in America if the legislation fails.
Congressman Brad Sherman of California’s 27th congressional district told the House in a speech yesterday evening that he personally knew of several Congressional representatives who have said they were threatened with the prospect of all out martial law should they vote in opposition to the $700 billion bailout.
Sherman essentially intimated that powerful forces who want the bill passed have attempted to blackmail elected representatives.
“The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. That atmosphere is not justified.” Sherman stated.
“Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day, another couple of thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.” The Congressman continued.
“That’s what I call fear mongering. Unjustified. Proven wrong. We’ve got a week, we’ve got two weeks to write a good bill. The only way to pass a bad bill is to keep the panic pressure on.” Sherman urged.
Sherman has been a member of the House of Representatives since 1997 and also serves on the Committee on Financial Services along with Texas Congressman Ron Paul.
On the Eve of a second Congressional vote on the legislation, these revelations show that freedom in America is under direct attack. The Congress should instigate an immediate investigation into these serious allegations to uncover which private individuals and administration officials, if any, are involved with directly threatening a military takeover of the workings of the U.S. government.
Sherman’s comments follow those of Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX), who warned Monday that the only information he had received about the bailout was what talking points to use on the American people and that he had been thrown out of meetings for not blindly supporting the bill.
Ominously, Burgess also commented, “Mr. Speaker I understand we are under Martial Law as declared by the speaker last night.”
Rep. Burgess appeared on the Alex Jones show earlier this week to discuss his comments. Subscribers, listen here.
However, it must be stressed that the definition of martial law that Congressman Sherman is referring to is the full blown military suspension of the normal administration of justice, while rep. Burgess was referring to the temporary suspension of the rules and procedures of Congress by its leaders so that a bill can be passed quickly.
Sherman’s allegations of threats against elected representatives have also been echoed by outspoken political activist Lyndon LaRouche who told an audience “There are those in high positions who know that if they don’t allow this bill to pass, that there are people behind the Bush Administration who will force them to pass it or kill them…”. LaRouche stated that well placed sources had told him that the use of armed troops to enforce the passage of the bill is “reality”.
the bill is messed up anyways, just about every congressman has some kind of tax cut for a company in there. the most bull**** one is a wooden arrow making company that gets subsidised and tax cuts now.
yeah its great they came together and passed a bill but its crap that they cant do it without bull**** that has nothing to do with the bill being put in there. american politics at its finest baby.
oh and the best part is during the press conference how so many of them were "touched" by being able to do there job for a change.
yeah and the stock market dropped over 800 points today then rebounded up to a down of 369 points, all the mean while oil droped and gold went up 26 or 36 dollars. not sure which one but it was a good jump. lets all buy gold since the dollar wont be worth **** soon. lol
im a veteran and respect all the things Americans past have done, but im not proud to be an american anymore. i thought i would never say that either. very depressing that america is not even a shadow of its former self
I'm not even liberal and im really honestly scared of the american political system. I mean how ****ed up is it that the american people have to pay for private companies who by the way could be making a big deal out of nothing to get compensation out of this disaster. who the **** runs washington lobbyists or politicians or are they the same thing now. Really makes you think whats going on behind closed doors in washington.
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get ready for a near great depression recession boys. should have invested in gold 5 years ago when my old man said to. damnit i hate it when he is right lol.
im a veteran and respect all the things Americans past have done, but im not proud to be an american anymore. i thought i would never say that either. very depressing that america is not even a shadow of its former self
I can understand the frusteration and fear in todays economy and political system. But as a Veteran myself I know you dont mean what you say. Yes the economy is struggling and yes we havent had the best representation but that does not define the average american. What other country can you look at and say wow they have it better than us. Or what other country hasnt been effected in the sharp spiral of todays economy. Fact is greed and self interest has been around since the begining of man. Its just now with today modern technology we can see more clearly see and alalyze some of the struggling aspects of todays businesses and politcal agendas.
There has been many stupid decisions both on business and consumers shoulders pushed by political gain. But it is the American that will work through these tough times and will carry the burden fo this mess on our back through higher taxes, sacrifices, and serving our country which can be in many ways. Thats why Im proud to be an American.
Thats why Im running for president 2012 J/K about the last line.
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I can understand the frusteration and fear in todays economy and political system. But as a Veteran myself I know you dont mean what you say. Yes the economy is struggling and yes we havent had the best representation but that does not define the average american. What other country can you look at and say wow they have it better than us. Or what other country hasnt been effected in the sharp spiral of todays economy. Fact is greed and self interest has been around since the begining of man. Its just now with today modern technology we can see more clearly see and alalyze some of the struggling aspects of todays businesses and politcal agendas.
There has been many stupid decisions both on business and consumers shoulders pushed by political gain. But it is the American that will work through these tough times and will carry the burden fo this mess on our back through higher taxes, sacrifices, and serving our country which can be in many ways. Thats why Im proud to be an American.
Thats why Im running for president 2012 J/K about the last line.
very wise words TO. i will vote for you as long as you dont bash your opponent. lol. but seriously you got my vote.
nice that will be perfect. i would rather vote for someone like that then what happened on last nights debate. they reminded me of a couple of junior high kids. lol
hate to sound ignorant here fella's but could someone fill me in on whats going on over your way? lol Britain is having a bit of an 'economic' struggle too so thats all im hearing about lately
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we have had like 4 banks go tits up, one went bankrupt and three were bought by other banks. the market has gone down majorly and getting credit is super hard right now. so there is no money flow in the states and its affecting the world.
Well a big issue right now in Britain also has to do with the possible bankruptcy of the largest bank in Iceland called Landsbanki. According to the news they stated that a lot of Britain business and consumers are heavily invested with them and there bankruptcy will only serve a maijor blow to Iceland as aell as Britains. Not to mention the bank has already seized control of the money left not allowing any more customers to withdrawl money.
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I can understand the frusteration and fear in todays economy and political system. But as a Veteran myself I know you dont mean what you say. Yes the economy is struggling and yes we havent had the best representation but that does not define the average american. What other country can you look at and say wow they have it better than us. Or what other country hasnt been effected in the sharp spiral of todays economy. Fact is greed and self interest has been around since the begining of man. Its just now with today modern technology we can see more clearly see and alalyze some of the struggling aspects of todays businesses and politcal agendas.
There has been many stupid decisions both on business and consumers shoulders pushed by political gain. But it is the American that will work through these tough times and will carry the burden fo this mess on our back through higher taxes, sacrifices, and serving our country which can be in many ways. Thats why Im proud to be an American.
Thats why Im running for president 2012 J/K about the last line.
good post, but man i know you remember the words you swore when you raised your hand in meps, i surely do and i was proud to do it. cant say i would ever do it again. it doesnt have as much to do with the economy as the corruption, backstabbing, and racial issues. when i returned to my hometown after a 10 month deployment in Iraq, the ppl here treated me like an outcast. i was hit with a traffic violation ON THE WAY HOME from base and ended up in jail b/c my liscense and tags were over expiration FROM BEING DEPLOYED. the cop said "it wasnt my decision to send you to war. you should have had someone take care of it for you." WTF. ive never had family, who the **** would i get to do that? i didnt expect to be welcomed as a ****ing hero. if anything i kept my mouth shut about it b/c that voids your SERVICE and the good things you did when you talk about it. but this is an internet forum-i dont give a **** here. im not holding a grudge, i was just shocked and for the most part, ive since forgotten about it. the service wasnt bad, but geez i had no idea what i was walking into. i was seriously afraid to tell this ****ers were i just returned from
a country is only as good as its ppl. this country is way overconfident and in love with the reputation our grandfather's built. i say **** that. im not riding anyones coat man. i paved my own ****ing path, maybe ill be poor, but ill TRY to be honest.
In that regard I see more clearly where your coming from and understand how frusterating that can be. I cant say I Sympathize because I didnt go through the same thing but I empathize because I know how I would have felt and have seen struggles with other veterans. When did you get out of the military if you dont mind me asking.
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ahhh ye sounds like we are having very similar problems. ye Britain relies on Iceland alot. one of our banks when bust too so the Govt bought em out. i dont think it will have a major affect on the 'lower classes' over here though, only the rich stock investors. im not too sure though
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But thats the problem though unfortunatley. Its easy for some people to say screw the rich tax the hell out of them, or who cares if they lose there money but the truth is, if they hurt so do we. Cut jobs, rase prices, take away benifits. Let me tell you I was pissed as hell when Delta took away pretzeles on the flights. hahahahahaha
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ye i know that because of the way capitalism works, when there is a broken link, the whole chain snaps. and i imagine with you having your own company, its having quite an effect on you?
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ye i know that because of the way capitalism works, when there is a broken link, the whole chain snaps. and i imagine with you having your own company, its having quite an effect on you?
Well knock on wood it isnt as bad as I had expected. Im sure if it keeps going down hill it will as people start to prioritize what is needed. One good thing the customers in this industry see supplements as a must have product, part of there daily routine.
Now what is hurting me is the opportunity to expand. There is none right now. No one wants to lend money . This is where most small business are going to get crunched. Even large business. In fact I just heard most of the dept stores are worried because most of there inventory is on borrowed money.
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ye i thought it might be that way. thats a ****ter dude. it seems as though you are caught onto something good with Orbit. and obviously if you need to borrow money or get investors, you go to the bank. it isnt as if you can pop down to the local Wal-Mart to borrow a couple of thousand dollars! lol but this is western society and i dont think its all as bad as it seems, this may sound retarded and i cant really speak for USA but:
1) the media totally overhypes EVERYTHING because panic and chaos sells
2) the Govt overhypes everything because panic causes people to react (ie global warming. if the Govt/media make it sound deathly, people are gonna react swiftly to prevent it)
3) this is western civilisation. USA and Britain alike have suffered great political, social and economical strife but have always managed to bounce back one way or another
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You are absolutley right. Its no where near as bad as the media makes it sound. When unemployment hits around 23% and the way people live today becomes impossible, than were in trouble.
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and i think there are much more threatening prospects across the political landscape than a drop in share prices lol (i realise thats an understatement)
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us stock market droped another 679 points today. my forcast just from what i know is that it will drop more and we are in for one of the worst recessions we have ever seen.
Im not to sure about that. Im not convinced yet that were going into recession. I think what were seeing is rock bottom coming very fast which was forecated around this time of year and is expected to last well into 09. Whats driving this crazy stock market is fear. Not necissarily the economy itself. For example look at yesterdays stock activity. I think that was the worst rollercoaster ride I have ever seen. We need to regain trust in our economy and you will see wallstreet start to stabalize. On thing that hopefully will help isoil for example. Prices are dropping for the most part. Remember its futures so todays oil prices we will feel a couple months from now, so Im hoping by Dec gas will have gone down a good 50 cents to a dollar. Remember there is a lot of things that qualify a Recession not just wall street.
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oh yeah man i hear ya. but this fear of the market and credit crunch is going to make people spend less which then leads to a recission. i understand that we may not be in one but i feel we are headed to one until things level out. yesterdays stock market was crazy for sure. for a while people are going to be tight with money but ya never know. lets make a bet about it. lol. a
Well if I had to predict. I would say things will begin to stabalize ater the election. The economy will stop taking a spiral fall by begining of 09 as businesses restructured, start to get back on there feet. unemployment will be around 8%, oil will be low but with the current scare of less production, and some of the foreign markets will take an even harder hit. Summer of 09 real estate will see its first positive forecast since this mess started as banks feel comfortable lending and consumers now feel the economy is positive and start to take advantage of the low home prices. By 2010 we start to recover from this mess but I predict a while before were back to the way the economy was pre 2006. I think some of the worst events have passed unless other factors come in to play. War with Iran, or any other national security events for example.
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Well if I had to predict. I would say things will begin to stabalize ater the election. The economy will stop taking a spiral fall by begining of 09 as businesses restructured, start to get back on there feet. unemployment will be around 8%, oil will be low but with the current scare of less production, and some of the foreign markets will take an even harder hit. Summer of 09 real estate will see its first positive forecast since this mess started as banks feel comfortable lending and consumers now feel the economy is positive and start to take advantage of the low home prices. By 2010 we start to recover from this mess but I predict a while before were back to the way the economy was pre 2006. I think some of the worst events have passed unless other factors come in to play. War with Iran, or any other national security events for example.
damn dude you should be a economist. you got that down to a science. now i know who my financial advisor will be.
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