[T.O]

Hey guys by popular demand, we have added a prohormone section to the Orbit Forum to bring light of some great products but more importantly supporting our customers with soild information or answers to questions. By no means is this a replacement of the steroid section of BBD but look at it as a alternative for prohormone advice on products and cycles. Remember you must be over 21 to use any of these products.

Thank you
Your Orbit Nutrition Team

[mitbar]

ah sweet this is a place i can hang out and answer questions. this should be a great section to learn about phs.

[T.O]

Hell yeah Mit, had to create a playground for you :)

[gringo220]

Cool, now there's a place for a lot of the new guys that join can go and ask their questions. We needed something like this. Way to go orbit!

[T.O]

Thanks Gringo yeah we figured it would help a little in moving some of the same questions asked in the steroid section to this section.

[mitbar]

alright guys lets here what your running right now for phs or what your planning on running.

i will be running hdrol then into epiotren for my contest prep coming up in about 18 days.

what is everyone else doing?

[mitbar]

FAVORITE PHS LETS HEAR THEM?

SPAWN, TESTENATE 50, HAVOC, EPISTANE? WHAT IS IT LET US KNOW. ALSO LET US KNOW YOUR EXPERIENCES WITH THEM.

[mitbar]

nobody? anybody?

[tyler315]

mit i just started my cycle of spawn yesterday, we will see how it goes

[chrispghmuscle]

Ok, whats a good starter ph

[mitbar]

havoc would be a good starter ph and if you wanted to stack it with something you could use bold 200. bold is not methylated so you dont have to worry about that. havoc is methylated but its very mild compared to many others as far as liver toxicity goes.

[mitbar]

Originally Posted by tyler315

mit i just started my cycle of spawn yesterday, we will see how it goes

sweet bro keep us updated, what is your dosage per day?

[tyler315]

im taking three a day

[mitbar]

are you splitting the dosages up in about 4-6 hour intervals. like take one in the am then one in the afternoon then one in the pm. phs have a half life of about 6-8 hours, closer to 6 so if you spread it out like that it will keep your blood levels pretty stable.

[tyler315]

yea i am like yesterday i was only able to take two cause it was my sleep in day and i was up at 1 and had one before my eggs and then had another one at 6:30 with my chicken and i went to bed around 8:30 cause i had work at 7 so when i have work early i will be able to take three

[mitbar]

nice nice keep us updated bro.

[gringo220]

Well I got a question. Just got off the phone with my brother who was asking about some ph's. He has Dura 50 and Thai 25. What are they and are they worth a ****? How should they be ran?

[mitbar]

never heard of them, i will look them up and get back to ya. give me a few min.

EDIT: ok the dura 50 is a deca clone, basically it converts into deca once ingested. also the warn of the water rentention and normal sides of deca but the dura is oral. the thai 25 is a precusor to dianbol. i wouldnt have him take these since he wont have any test going through his system and most phs out there convert to test but these two dont. didnt see any reviews just the normal advertisment bs about gaining insane muscle. hope that helps gringo.

[F-111]

ive heard of these 2 b4. from what i know about them its almost a waste of time because they are an inbetween type of ph. its not quite ph but not quite gear if u know what i mean. like mit said, unless some test is used they are quite harmful in the long run.

[F-111]

ive run epistane b4 and im into week 2 of my 2nd epi cycle. i was never gonna do it again but i managed to get a hold of 2 bottles dirt cheap so i got tempted.

last time i gained pretty well and was happy with how i looked afterwards, now i look more bloated than ever but bigger also, hope the epi may lean me out a little while i gain a bit too.

ill let u know how it goes.

[gringo220]

Thanks for the help guys. I'll let him know.

[T.O]

Originally Posted by F-111

ive run epistane b4 and im into week 2 of my 2nd epi cycle. i was never gonna do it again but i managed to get a hold of 2 bottles dirt cheap so i got tempted.

last time i gained pretty well and was happy with how i looked afterwards, now i look more bloated than ever but bigger also, hope the epi may lean me out a little while i gain a bit too.

ill let u know how it goes.

When was your first Epi cycle. It may have contained a littel tren thats why.

[mitbar]

Originally Posted by gringo220

Thanks for the help guys. I'll let him know.

hey gringo any luck convincing him to return them since they are ****ty?

[mitbar]

here is a good link to some ph cheat sheets with info and sample cycles. check it out if you have questions.

http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...one-cheat.html

[gringo220]

Originally Posted by mitbar

hey gringo any luck convincing him to return them since they are ****ty?

Yeah my brother's like talking to a brick wall sometimes. I told him before I asked here and said the same thing. He said he might take one of the two so I said go right ahead!! **** it I guess, what can you do.

[mitbar]

you did what you could bro.....sometimes people are stubborn and gonna do it no matter what.

[gringo220]

lol.. That's my brother. I try to give out advice to people I know and no one seems to want it. My old training partner is the same way. Did a cycle of sust, no pct then a month later started another one. Oh well I just laugh at them.

[mitbar]

anybody else out there taking anything or want to know anything? lets hear about some experiences.

[KM]

Am I aloud in here? hehehehe

[T.O]

Ultra Mass stack from APS is coming back out. Its a really popular product, Phera and Tren sacked.