uriel, i kinda disagree because to me in the first, third and fourth pic i posted, he looks pretty vascular, the one where he is doing bicep curls, the third pic, his veins are bulging out, and his abs look big but also pretty cut...i think that had to be his best shape ever....he just looks like an animal or a monster in that third one doing curls, the fourth one he looks huge, look at his arms and chest, as well as his legs, but also showing good abs. i dunno... the third pic i think is when he was filming pumping iron, you see the camera crew, so that could be 1975...he was 28 at the time. | 
