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Old 07-17-2008, 01:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've taken advice from lots of people and feel like I know a good amount about diet. I've been following this one for most of the month.

Meal 1 10:20
Whey protein shake (20g)
Eggs 3 whites 1 whole
White bagel

Meal 2 12:20
Whole grain granola bar
Orange juice
Instant oatmeal (whole grain)
1 can of tuna

Meal 3 2:20 (Pre workout)
Milk
Some kind of meat today it'll be Hamburger Helper
Corn

Meal 4 (post workout) 4:20
2 scoops whey protein (40gs protein)
White bread or a bagel

Meal 5 7:00
Salmon
Orange juice/milk
Varying types of meats and carbs (any suggestions)

Meal 6 9:20
Chicken/lean beef burgers (96% lean)
Tomatoes/blueberries/watermelon

Meal 7 11:20
Cottage cheese 1 cup
Milk sometimes


Sorry I couldn't be more specific, but right now it's kinda whatever's for dinner. Cuz my family eats healthy and well and I always get them to buy the carbs and protein I need.
The supps I'm taking are
Multivitamin
Fish oil
Glutamine (bought I bottle so I'll finish it up, I know this isn't beneficial)
Vitamin B-12 before my workout
Whey protein powder

Just stopped my 5 month long creatine cycle that wasn't ever supposed to be that long. I was adviced to do so by a doctor after having some chest pains.

I'll drink anywhere form a gallon to 1 and a half gallons a day of water.

Thanks for any suggestions/help.
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Hamburger helper has carbs too right?

Meal 4 add some fruit

Meal 5 maybe add some wild rice, veggies, almods.

Meal 6 put the fruit towards Meal 4

Meal 7 add some peanut butter, fish oils, almonds.

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^ Thanks for the quick response man, oh I forgot to include that I eat peanut butter with the cottage cheese. And yeah Hamburger helper is meat and noodles. Fruit to the post workout meal, isn't fruit slow digesting? I'm gonna buy some almonds or peanuts.
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hamburger helper isnt the best meal
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Change white bagel to whole grain. Is that instant oatmeal flavored?.. it better not be What are your macros and your stats?
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hamburger helper has carbs too right?

Meal 4 add some fruit
Wrong. Some maybe but not most. Fructose is fruit sugar. Surpasses the liver and does not release enough glucose to the bloodstream to cause a significant nor quck enough insulin response/glycogen replenishment.

Anyway Mike..

Whole grain as much as possible. White's Ok i guess for us youngster's but I try for whole grain as well. Last meal add some nuts, oils, etc. Handful of almonds would do it.

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looks pretty good imho, your first meal is quite late, but thats fine all long as your recieveing constant nutrition..300lbs bench in 330days-thats a good goal and hella strong for 16 imo
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hamburger helper isnt the best meal
but it tastes soooooo good! lol
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Wrong. Some maybe but not most. Fructose is fruit sugar. Surpasses the liver and does not release enough glucose to the bloodstream to cause a significant nor quck enough insulin response/glycogen replenishment.

Anyway Mike..

Whole grain as much as possible. White's Ok i guess for us youngster's but I try for whole grain as well. Last meal add some nuts, oils, etc. Handful of almonds would do it.

Good luck man.
Fructose will raise your blood sugar but not as fast as glucose. It all depends on the portions. - glycemic load.
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Fructose will raise your blood sugar but not as fast as glucose. It all depends on the portions. - glycemic load.
True dat.

I still don't understand GL, how is it measured. Or do you have a link?
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Grams of carbs x glycemic index divided by 100.

For example say a white bread. Lets say there is 100g of carbs. White bread has a GI index of 100

100 x 100 = 10,000

10,000 / 100 = 100 GL

comparativly say you eat 25g of white bread

100 x 25 = 2500

2500 / 100 = 25 GL

See how even though white bread has a GI of 100 it's GL is only 25 for the smaller portion.
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In response to everyone at once here, sicne I don't know how to do multiple quotes.
Now one, what do you guys think of this
Adding two pieces of whole grain bread to the first meal and no bagel.
Add a scoop of peanut butter to the pre workout meal.
Add some peanut butter to the last meal.

What should I eat for glucose pre workout?

Freak, yes the oatmeal is flavored haha, there isn't many things I can't eat, but unflavored oatmeal string beans, grapefruit and Nitro-tech with water would be them. I hate unflavored oatmeal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't white bread good to have first and post workout meal because it's fast digesting? Whereas whole grain bread isn't.

Dieseld, getting to that 300 will take everything I have and then some I'll be making lots of sacrifices to get there, but it'll happen.
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Put fruit in your unflavored oatmeal.
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3. Every quote you clicked on will be in your response.
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I've taken advice from lots of people and feel like I know a good amount about diet. I've been following this one for most of the month.

Meal 1 10:20
Whey protein shake (20g)
Eggs 3 whites 1 whole
White bagel

Meal 2 12:20
Whole grain granola bar
Orange juice
Instant oatmeal (whole grain)
1 can of tuna

Meal 3 2:20 (Pre workout)
Milk
Some kind of meat today it'll be Hamburger Helper
Corn

Meal 4 (post workout) 4:20
2 scoops whey protein (40gs protein)
White bread or a bagel

Meal 5 7:00
Salmon
Orange juice/milk
Varying types of meats and carbs (any suggestions)

Meal 6 9:20
Chicken/lean beef burgers (96% lean)
Tomatoes/blueberries/watermelon

Meal 7 11:20
Cottage cheese 1 cup
Milk sometimes


Sorry I couldn't be more specific, but right now it's kinda whatever's for dinner. Cuz my family eats healthy and well and I always get them to buy the carbs and protein I need.
The supps I'm taking are
Multivitamin
Fish oil
Glutamine (bought I bottle so I'll finish it up, I know this isn't beneficial)
Vitamin B-12 before my workout
Whey protein powder

Just stopped my 5 month long creatine cycle that wasn't ever supposed to be that long. I was adviced to do so by a doctor after having some chest pains.

I'll drink anywhere form a gallon to 1 and a half gallons a day of water.

Thanks for any suggestions/help.
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^ Thanks for the quick response man, oh I forgot to include that I eat peanut butter with the cottage cheese. And yeah Hamburger helper is meat and noodles. Fruit to the post workout meal, isn't fruit slow digesting? I'm gonna buy some almonds or peanuts.
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In response to everyone at once here, sicne I don't know how to do multiple quotes.
Now one, what do you guys think of this
Adding two pieces of whole grain bread to the first meal and no bagel.
Add a scoop of peanut butter to the pre workout meal.
Add some peanut butter to the last meal.

What should I eat for glucose pre workout?

Freak, yes the oatmeal is flavored haha, there isn't many things I can't eat, but unflavored oatmeal string beans, grapefruit and Nitro-tech with water would be them. I hate unflavored oatmeal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't white bread good to have first and post workout meal because it's fast digesting? Whereas whole grain bread isn't.

Dieseld, getting to that 300 will take everything I have and then some I'll be making lots of sacrifices to get there, but it'll happen.
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for multi quotes do this..

1. go to every post you want in your response and check the MULIT QUOTE to ON. ( its currenly OFF )

2. Then on the bottom one click on the quote..

3. Every quote you clicked on will be in your response.
sorry about doing this but that is how its done.
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Ah I see thanks Chris!
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Mike,

your doing good. just dont try and rush things to much since your fairly young.

from what i could tell your plan looked good. i agree some things just need some flavour. if you take on board what the guys here have recommended like the fruit, peanut butter and nuts, your plan should do the job

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Change white bagel to whole grain. Is that instant oatmeal flavored?.. it better not be What are your macros and your stats?
Hey Freak I understand that flavored oatmeal is worse than non flavored, but why is it that MUCH worse?
 
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Refined sugar.
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But you can totally get away with flavored oatmeal for the first meal of the day. It's great for replenishing lost glycogen from the night before. In all honesty, you need sugars man. But remember, not one diet works for everyone. Your gonna need to adjust meals to your requirements and performance. We can give you our personal advice, but try to apply it and see if it helps you.
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