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Old 07-02-2008, 12:21 PM   #1
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i'm 5'8 and i weigh 135 and i'm 17, i want to put on about 10-15 lbs atleast.
my diet doesn't seem to help, and my friend told me to come ot this forum because some of you helped him set up a diet, he said you guys told him the amount of calories fat, protein, carbs etc. he should have.

My goal is to to put on 10 lbs but i don't want to put it on at my stomach, because i have skinny arms and legs. so if you could help, it would me very apperciated.

i want to have 5-6 meals a day.

thank you.
 
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:50 PM   #2
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i'm 5'8 and i weigh 135 and i'm 17, i want to put on about 10-15 lbs atleast.
my diet doesn't seem to help, and my friend told me to come ot this forum because some of you helped him set up a diet, he said you guys told him the amount of calories fat, protein, carbs etc. he should have.

My goal is to to put on 10 lbs but i don't want to put it on at my stomach, because i have skinny arms and legs. so if you could help, it would me very apperciated.

i want to have 5-6 meals a day.

thank you.
Welcome to the dungeon, at your weight 135x15=2025 ...calories in to sustan your bodyweight. If you eat less and do cardo, you will loose weight, if you intake more than 2025 you will gain weight.

You need 5 to 7 meals a day, with at your weight 135 divided by 7 = 19.25 grams of protein at each meal.


Make a definitive goal and also state when you want to achieve it. This goal should be realistic to build your confidence and as you proceed your goals can become more of a stretch and they will push you instead of depress you.

Start by tracking everything you eat/drink for an 5-7 days. Take the average of your total calories, grams of protein, carbs, and fat. This is your baseline and is very important.

From here increase your calories by 500/day. This is your target caloric intake.

You want 1g/lb of bodyweight. No more, no less.

You want simple carbs when you first wake up and after your workout. The rest of the day you want complex carbohydrates.

Your total caloric breakdown should be 50-60% carbs, 20-30% fat, and 1/lb of bodyweight for protein.

You want 7-8 meals/day. This greatly increases absorption. Cook your meals in advance and it would be very helpful if you can afford it to purchase a rice cooker. Stick to fresh/frozen foods when possible. (try to avoid canned products).

Fat should come primarily from unsaturated sources.

Buy a few (1) gallon jugs of water. You want to consume 1 gallon/day. This may seem like a lot but its not.

Good foods are:

Protein: round steak, salmon, tuna, chicken breast, turkey, milk, and whey protein.

Carbs: oatmeal, sweet potatoes, yams, whole grain pasta brown rice, fruits.

Fat: Olive oil, unsalted almonds, flax seed oil.

Vegetables can and should be sprinkled throughout your diet. I like broccoli and asparagus best.

Calories per gram:

Protein: 4
Carbs: 4
Fat: 9
Alcohol: 7

You should avoid alcohol as it reduces protein synthesis and dehydrates you.


Protein:
• Tuna or most any fish.
• Cottage cheese.
• Eggs (especially the whites).
• Chicken breast (boneless skinless).
• Turkey breast (boneless skinless).
• Lean beef.
• Low fat or no fat cheese.
• Low fat pork.
• Milk protein isolate.
• Whey protein.
Soy protein.
• Essentially most any other source of protein so long as it is low in saturated fat and carbohydrates.

Carbohydrates:
• Sweet potatoes.
• Oat meal, oat bran, oat bran cereal (i.e. cheerios).
• Bran cereal.
• Brown rice.
• Wheat bread (try to limit to 2 slices per day).
• Beans.
• Low fat popcorn (low fat butter spray makes this a delicacy).
• Fruits (limit to 2-3 servings per day).
• Malto dextrin (during workout).
• Dextrose (during workout)
• Vegetables.
• Stay away from refined grains and anything that says "enriched" or "high fructose corn syrup" on the label!

Fat:
• Omega 3 capsules (i.e. fish oil capsules).
• Flax seed oil.
• Primrose oil.
• Borage oil.
• Olive oil.
• Nuts (limit to 1 serving per day), peanut butter (as long as it does not contain hydrogenated oils).
• Egg yolks.
• Fish (salmon especially).
• All other fat should come as a by-product of your carbohydrate and protein intake.


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Old 07-02-2008, 01:42 PM   #3
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i just wanted to say thanks you for the welcome and the information, you cleared most of the things i was confused about.

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Welcome to the dungeon, at your weight 135x15=2025 ...calories in to sustan your bodyweight. If you eat less and do cardo, you will loose weight, if you intake more than 2025 you will gain weight.

You need 5 to 7 meals a day, with at your weight 135 divided by 7 = 19.25 grams of protein at each meal.


Make a definitive goal and also state when you want to achieve it. This goal should be realistic to build your confidence and as you proceed your goals can become more of a stretch and they will push you instead of depress you.

Start by tracking everything you eat/drink for an 5-7 days. Take the average of your total calories, grams of protein, carbs, and fat. This is your baseline and is very important.

From here increase your calories by 500/day. This is your target caloric intake.

You want 1g/lb of bodyweight. No more, no less.

You want simple carbs when you first wake up and after your workout. The rest of the day you want complex carbohydrates.

Your total caloric breakdown should be 50-60% carbs, 20-30% fat, and 1/lb of bodyweight for protein.

You want 7-8 meals/day. This greatly increases absorption. Cook your meals in advance and it would be very helpful if you can afford it to purchase a rice cooker. Stick to fresh/frozen foods when possible. (try to avoid canned products).

Fat should come primarily from unsaturated sources.

Buy a few (1) gallon jugs of water. You want to consume 1 gallon/day. This may seem like a lot but its not.

Good foods are:

Protein: round steak, salmon, tuna, chicken breast, turkey, milk, and whey protein.

Carbs: oatmeal, sweet potatoes, yams, whole grain pasta brown rice, fruits.

Fat: Olive oil, unsalted almonds, flax seed oil.

Vegetables can and should be sprinkled throughout your diet. I like broccoli and asparagus best.

Calories per gram:

Protein: 4
Carbs: 4
Fat: 9
Alcohol: 7

You should avoid alcohol as it reduces protein synthesis and dehydrates you.


Protein:
• Tuna or most any fish.
• Cottage cheese.
• Eggs (especially the whites).
• Chicken breast (boneless skinless).
• Turkey breast (boneless skinless).
• Lean beef.
• Low fat or no fat cheese.
• Low fat pork.
• Milk protein isolate.
• Whey protein.
Soy protein.
• Essentially most any other source of protein so long as it is low in saturated fat and carbohydrates.

Carbohydrates:
• Sweet potatoes.
• Oat meal, oat bran, oat bran cereal (i.e. cheerios).
• Bran cereal.
• Brown rice.
• Wheat bread (try to limit to 2 slices per day).
• Beans.
• Low fat popcorn (low fat butter spray makes this a delicacy).
• Fruits (limit to 2-3 servings per day).
• Malto dextrin (during workout).
• Dextrose (during workout)
• Vegetables.
• Stay away from refined grains and anything that says "enriched" or "high fructose corn syrup" on the label!

Fat:
• Omega 3 capsules (i.e. fish oil capsules).
• Flax seed oil.
• Primrose oil.
• Borage oil.
• Olive oil.
• Nuts (limit to 1 serving per day), peanut butter (as long as it does not contain hydrogenated oils).
• Egg yolks.
• Fish (salmon especially).
• All other fat should come as a by-product of your carbohydrate and protein intake.


Chris
 
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:46 PM   #4
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There is a wealth of information in the dungeon, enjoy your stay.. oh and enjoy the reading too..
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:19 PM   #5
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nice chris.
he said just about everything.
how is training looking.
just wondering?
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:23 PM   #6
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Me or him. If me you can read my training log..
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:34 PM   #7
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him.
haha ive read your log chris.
good shit.
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:27 PM   #8
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it's going fine, thanks for asking
i was able to bench 150 4x and i think thats good for somebody that weighs 135 and has been training for 3 months.
i'm wondering and i'm leaning to go back down to 135 on benchpress because somebody pointed out that i don't let the bar touch my chest, so i'd rather do back down and get that form right
is that a good idea?

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nice chris.
he said just about everything.
how is training looking.
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Old 07-03-2008, 12:37 AM   #9
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it's going fine, thanks for asking
i was able to bench 150 4x and i think thats good for somebody that weighs 135 and has been training for 3 months.
i'm wondering and i'm leaning to go back down to 135 on benchpress because somebody pointed out that i don't let the bar touch my chest, so i'd rather do back down and get that form right
is that a good idea?
yes sir
without a doubt
form over weight
ne time, every time.
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Old 07-03-2008, 12:46 AM   #10
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it sounds like you're an ectomorph. what i've heard from talking to ectomorphs is that you guys have to not only eat 25x you bodyweight for calories to gain weight, but you gotta dirty it up. cheezeburgers, pizza, whatever.

5'8, and 135lbs? you're not gonna store it all in your gut. trust me. and if you wanna get big, you're going to gain a little fat anyway. it's almost impossible to gain muslce mass and stay lean at the same time without certain chemicals.
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Old 07-03-2008, 12:48 AM   #11
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haha i did it last year,
gained about 25lbs of muscle, about 40 overall
and stayed well below the 10% bodyfat range,
but ima
allow, and push for the 10%-12% range this year to get better muscle gains i hope.

and btw, im eating a lot cleaner this year and gaining faster then when i ate dirty.
that all ended up in the toilet.
just saying.
it depends on the person.
some people can't digest that shit, for nethang.
they sure can power shit though.
trail and error my friend.
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