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Old 06-27-2008, 08:48 PM   #1
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hey guys, this is my diet right now. i'm cutting but i have a question. so the end of my bulk was at 176lbs. i'm at 169lbs as of today and i havn't lost any muscle mass.

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meal 1
1 cup of oats in 2 cup of whole milk
6 eggwhites
8oz. orange juice

pre-workout - 2 scoops of superpump 250

workout

meal 3
3 scoops of true mass
some fruit

meal 4
2 cups of brown rice or whole grain pasta
6oz chicken breast
brocolli/asparagus/green beans mix = 2 cups
diet juice

meal 5
2 cup of brown rice or whole grain pasta
diet juice
2 scoops of optimum nutrition whey protein

meal 6
3 cups of vegetable mix
1 can of tuna (mixed together with veggies.
1/2 cup of nuts (almonds or walnuts)


ok, i know there are some things here that are questionable for my cup like that whole milk in the morning especially pre-workout and the true mass due to the fat content.
but this has been helping me keep my size and this diet is working GREAT for me so far anyway.

altogether
calories - around 3000
carbohydrates - around 380g
protein - around 190g
fat - around 80g

looks like a bulk diet right? well all i did was cut my fat and cut my carbs from bulking. that's about it. and i cleaned it up a bit.

so my question is, i have very little fat right now. i estimate maybe even pretty close to 9%. definatly 10%. now, i look at myself and i am holding A SHIT LOAD OF WATER!!!!!!!!!

does anybody have a clue why i have so much water retention?

and don't say creatine!

does it have to do with my carbs being high?
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:00 PM   #2
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1 gram of extra sodium will hold onto roughly 10 grams of water.

double check on sodium bro.

If you begin limiting sodium, your body will release extra aldasterone, which will cause you to retain sodium. If you consume a slightly high sodium diet, your body will become very efficient at secreting it, and influxes in sodium will not cause you to retain extra subcutaneous water as they would if you limited your sodium in take.
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:15 PM   #3
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1 gram of extra sodium will hold onto roughly 10 grams of water.

double check on sodium bro.

If you begin limiting sodium, your body will release extra aldasterone, which will cause you to retain sodium. If you consume a slightly high sodium diet, your body will become very efficient at secreting it, and influxes in sodium will not cause you to retain extra subcutaneous water as they would if you limited your sodium in take.
thank you for your response

a little confused!
ok, so by limiting my sodium too much, my body is retaining sodium? so that's why i'm retaining extra water?
so if i increase my sodium a little bit, i won't retain as much?

that's what i got out of your response.
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:17 PM   #4
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exactly bro, its your body's natural response.
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:27 PM   #5
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shit man
thanks!

ok, well i'll take that into consideration toward the end of my cut.

i'll do the sodium loading and depleting phazes that you competators do.

thanks a bunch man!
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:28 PM   #6
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Np bro, best of luck with the cut.
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:16 PM   #7
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thank you kind sir
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:07 AM   #8
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all i can think is sodium
i held water until 2 weeks out from the show
since i didn't manipulate sodium
as in load and deplete
i just slowly tapered it off
so def check on the sodium id imagine true mass is carrying some
switch to weigh and lose the carbs from the weightgainer alltogether
and u should hit ure goal in no time
r u competing?
 
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:13 AM   #9
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kenny's not competing, but yeah dude it's straight sodium. it's either coming from salt you put on the meals, from the pasta, possibly the 1/2 cup of nuts at the end of the day if they are salted or not. tons of diff things.
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:48 AM   #10
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Lets see.

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Old 06-28-2008, 06:18 AM   #11
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ah
there we go
thanks guys

it's my sodium intake

i hope it's at least a healty one

not too worrie about retaining water. just wondering why i was holding so much water.

thanks

i estimate i'm taking in about 2000 miligrams after what thomas said
cuz after all, i do put salt on my food. just not that much.
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