[rdobson]

whats up everyone. I purchased the arnolds bodybuilding for men book off amazon.com and I got it today.I'm sure some of you have read it.I was just flipping through and I read his nutrition formula.

he said eat about 1gram or protein for every 2lbs of body weight. eat no less than 60 or no more than 100g carbs a day. Limit your fat intake.

that totally confuses me cause everything I've been reading says 1.3g per body weight or something for protein...

he goes on to say ...that early in his career he believed that a bodybuilder needed to eat as much as 200g of protein a day in order to develop maximum muscle mass. Since then his research has shown him that body builders do need more protein than the average athalete but probably no more than 100g and certanly no more than 150g.This gives enough protein for muscle building,without adding any unessesary calories to the diet....

HMMM.......I figured since he won mr olympia 7 times or whatever and had a monster body that everyone I know is liek DAMN!!! when I show them pumping Iron he would know whats up

But I'm so confused now.....


anyone ever been this confused???

take care

[harmankardon1]

as good as arnold was you must remember the advancements that happen in over thirty years ,that info is obviously wrong there are a few questionable statements in arnold encylopedia bb if thats the one you got. stick to what is recent reliable information nutrition for bb has come a long way since arnolds day

[rdobson]

thanks for the reply...i talkin to a few people last night in the chat room on here and we all came up with the conclusion that different things work for different people...

I guess its liek that with everything

[Demon Knight]

Originally Posted by rdobson

whats up everyone. I purchased the arnolds bodybuilding for men book off amazon.com and I got it today.I'm sure some of you have read it.I was just flipping through and I read his nutrition formula.

he said eat about 1gram or protein for every 2lbs of body weight. eat no less than 60 or no more than 100g carbs a day. Limit your fat intake.

that totally confuses me cause everything I've been reading says 1.3g per body weight or something for protein...

he goes on to say ...that early in his career he believed that a bodybuilder needed to eat as much as 200g of protein a day in order to develop maximum muscle mass. Since then his research has shown him that body builders do need more protein than the average athalete but probably no more than 100g and certanly no more than 150g.This gives enough protein for muscle building,without adding any unessesary calories to the diet....

HMMM.......I figured since he won mr olympia 7 times or whatever and had a monster body that everyone I know is liek DAMN!!! when I show them pumping Iron he would know whats up

But I'm so confused now.....


anyone ever been this confused???

take care

I haven't read his book but you have to remember about top athletes, they are born with elite genetics and are taking some very powerful drugs to compete at that level. They bear no relation to your average joe. They can work harder, recuperate faster and get stronger/bigger, even with a poor diet and a horrible training regime.

As for the protein,scientific evidence shows intakes of 1.4-1.8g/kg of bodyweight are sufficient for muscle growth purposes. 1g/2lbs of bodyweight equates to roughly 1g/kg, not enough for growth and repair. The bodybuilding recommended of 1g/lb of bodyweight (or 1g/lb of Lean Body Mass) is more than enough, higher intakes are not proven to offer any advantages.

1g/2lbs bw protein and 60-100g carbs a day is extremely low though....are you sure you are reading his book correctly?

A bodybuilder of 200lbs@10%bf would need roughly 3300kcal a day to maintain. With Arnold's breakdown, that would be 100g protein (400kcal), 100g carbs (400kcal) and 278g of FAT!!!!(2500kcal)

[Kaboom]

^Whats funny is the guys that take all these drugs are the ones that need more protein and more food.
I dont believe that Arnold was taking in less than 100 grams od protein a day.You said the book said shouldnt need no more than 100 grams a day well AT 1 GRAM per 2 lbs thats only enough for a 200 lb man.What about all the big guys.

[rdobson]

Originally Posted by Kaboom

^Whats funny is the guys that take all these drugs are the ones that need more protein and more food.
I dont believe that Arnold was taking in less than 100 grams od protein a day.You said the book said shouldnt need no more than 100 grams a day well AT 1 GRAM per 2 lbs thats only enough for a 200 lb man.What about all the big guys.

I know it shocked me too...I've just been getting as much as I can and can afford man....which has been pretty close to 1g/lb. The book came out in 81 after he was done competting for good maybe he just said that for people that are just trying to get in, or stay in shape not compete ,I'm not sure.....anyway the book was worth it in other ways even if his opinion is different on that theres alot of good diagrams on excersizes and stuff....thanks all for the responses

[ibanezman88]

just stick to 1g per lbs for now. see if that works. if not, add more.

as for carbs, if you're bulking, you should be getting 2-3g per lbs!

[harmankardon1]

i agree i cant possibly see how arnold could have been eating only 100gs protein a day