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Old 02-25-2008, 06:17 PM   #31
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IT LOWERS YOU BODYS TEST and can cause gynecomastia
 
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:21 PM   #32
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you'll be like towlie from south park man dont bother, it helps releive pain in medics so you might feel less sore the next day
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:16 PM   #33
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drugs are for sluts and losers.
 
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:52 PM   #34
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oh and by the way my pecs are not soft and i have never had gyno and i've been smoking on and off for 5 years like i said things effect each individual differently.

if you have gyno you were prone to get it whether you smoked marijuana or not, and the markus ruhl smoking the cigarette in his video thats how he fights hunger nicotene supresses apetite he was probably close to contest and trying to not get overly hungry.
 
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:54 PM   #35
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marijauna lowers testosterone only in large amounts you'd have to consume a quarter ounce a day to lower testosterone that much
 
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:34 PM   #36
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John Maltese (not his real name) was one of the premier bodybuilders of the mid-to-late 1960s. Although he did use drugs, such as anabolic steroids, to win many of his titles, later in his career he disavowed the use of most drugs with one notable exception. Maltese had a preworkout ritual that he claimed allowed him to train more intensely and concentrate more effectively throughout his training session.

What was his secret? The enigmatic root of his preworkout ritual became evident one day in the back room of a popular Southern California bodybuilding gym. This particular gym had a sauna that was never used, located in the back of the men’s locker room. It was the perfect place to engage in surreptitious behavior. What Maltese couldn’t conceal, however, was the pungent marijuana fumes.

Maltese smoked marijuana in that room. And he didn’t just puff on one “joint,” or marijuana cigarette, either. No, Maltese regularly engaged in a marijuana trip, losing his thoughts in the wispy smoke that rose slowly toward the ceiling in his secret alcove. He would emerge after an hour or so and head directly to the gym floor, working out with no apparent ill effects.

Most studies that have examined human marijuana use haven’t shown any significant effect on testosterone levels in normal men. A 1983 study, however, did find depressed testosterone levels after subjects smoked just one joint, with the effect lasting 24 hours. A 1984 study found that pot not only inhibited testosterone but also lowered prolactin, thyroid and growth hormone. It did that by altering the expression of brain substances that govern hormone release.

Nevertheless, a 1989 study gave 17 male volunteers both high and low doses of THC and then tested their hormonal responses. The results showed no hormonal or immune parameters affected by either a high or low dose of THC. Notably, both testosterone and cortisol were examined, indicating that pot doesn’t produce catabolic effects in muscle through increased cortisol release.

Based on the majority of studies that have looked at the effects of pot on testosterone levels, it appears that the drug has little or no effect on this hormone in humans. One study that examined Jamaican pot smokers, however, did find a significant decrease in active thyroid hormone in the blood, although the men showed no apparent thyroid dysfunction. Significantly, the men also showed normal testosterone levels despite smoking an average of seven to eight joints a day.


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Old 02-26-2008, 08:03 PM   #37
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John Maltese (not his real name) was one of the premier bodybuilders of the mid-to-late 1960s. Although he did use drugs, such as anabolic steroids, to win many of his titles, later in his career he disavowed the use of most drugs with one notable exception. Maltese had a preworkout ritual that he claimed allowed him to train more intensely and concentrate more effectively throughout his training session.

What was his secret? The enigmatic root of his preworkout ritual became evident one day in the back room of a popular Southern California bodybuilding gym. This particular gym had a sauna that was never used, located in the back of the men’s locker room. It was the perfect place to engage in surreptitious behavior. What Maltese couldn’t conceal, however, was the pungent marijuana fumes.

Maltese smoked marijuana in that room. And he didn’t just puff on one “joint,” or marijuana cigarette, either. No, Maltese regularly engaged in a marijuana trip, losing his thoughts in the wispy smoke that rose slowly toward the ceiling in his secret alcove. He would emerge after an hour or so and head directly to the gym floor, working out with no apparent ill effects.

Most studies that have examined human marijuana use haven’t shown any significant effect on testosterone levels in normal men. A 1983 study, however, did find depressed testosterone levels after subjects smoked just one joint, with the effect lasting 24 hours. A 1984 study found that pot not only inhibited testosterone but also lowered prolactin, thyroid and growth hormone. It did that by altering the expression of brain substances that govern hormone release.

Nevertheless, a 1989 study gave 17 male volunteers both high and low doses of THC and then tested their hormonal responses. The results showed no hormonal or immune parameters affected by either a high or low dose of THC. Notably, both testosterone and cortisol were examined, indicating that pot doesn’t produce catabolic effects in muscle through increased cortisol release.

Based on the majority of studies that have looked at the effects of pot on testosterone levels, it appears that the drug has little or no effect on this hormone in humans. One study that examined Jamaican pot smokers, however, did find a significant decrease in active thyroid hormone in the blood, although the men showed no apparent thyroid dysfunction. Significantly, the men also showed normal testosterone levels despite smoking an average of seven to eight joints a day.


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Thanks for presenting another credible point of view. Not that I'm against smoking pot, but this story implies that it's good for you or a motivator or something. Maybe Maltese did fine inspite of his pot addiction, but maybe he could have been Mr. O if he hadn't toked so much. I've met lots of potheads (went to school at Berzerkly) and they don't stand out as being the healthiest or smartest individuals - which is fine but everybody should make their own decision based on the facts rather than anecdotal stories about who succeeds high.
I had a boss once who did lots of pot & cocaine - was a brilliant designer high - rich & famous now- but I could do the same and not come close to his achievement. And maybe if he didn't smoke so much he would have been more brilliant.... He also smoked a lot -so not exactly a health nut.

Just my opinion. I kinda wish I hadn't smoked so much when I was younger - i coulda been a contenda'...I coulda' been somebody... (lifted from Brando in The Waterfront - great movie!)
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:08 PM   #38
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Everything in moderation as they say
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:38 PM   #39
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I get a kick outta here with all these kids talking like they are future pros.



If you wanna get high, go to town. Just dont be a burnout. I know alot of big guys that go to the gym baked everyday, I personally cant smoke then do anything productful so if i do its at night after all my work is done and just chillen with my roomates
 
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:29 PM   #40
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I think that you've got to realize that it affects everyone differently... I say try it, see how it works for you, or just knock it first, either or.
 
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:56 PM   #41
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Because after seeing markus ruhl smoke, some people think it's fine.

Also because weed has become pretty prevalent in our society and has infiltrated our community. I mean, it's been around for a long time because Arnold has been shown on tape doing it, but now with the kids in schools having such easy access to it, people want to do it more and do it more period. It's kinda fucked up if you think about it.
ummm im pretty sure arnold was smoking a cigarette if your talking about pumping iron at the end...
 
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:55 PM   #42
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ummm im pretty sure arnold was smoking a cigarette if your talking about pumping iron at the end...
Nah that was dro homie.
 
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:23 AM   #43
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Arnold was a funny bastard
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