[yatyas314]

after i get home from my cardio session i am absolutly fawking starving i always eat two packs of sugar free instant oatmeal and i box of raisins 5 eggs (only two yolks) mixed with about half a cup of brown rice topped with hotsauce i put it all down with 26grams of whey protein with half of a bannana and non fat milk

My question is is this too much i usually let it sit for an hour before i hit the weights

that is very confusing.

are you saying after your cardio
you eat ALL that??

and then one hour later lift?

because if you do, thats absolutely ridiculous.
first of all, why eat that much after cardio? second why lift a few hours after cardiio?

[yatyas314]

damn dude your killing me first it really feels like i should be eating that much it only loks big written down when its in front of u its really not that much and i only get the mornings or what i call mornings i work weird on call schedule i only get 8-12 hours off between shifts so i do what i can

well you wanted an answer.

pre cook your meals, eat them at work.
or prepare meals that can be eaten cold that you dont mind.

[compulut]

This is a good question, IMO, as I run into it from time to time as well. I'm assuming you're doing cardio first thing, in a fasted state, to maximize fat burning. I'm also assuming that you work out early in the day and, for whatever reason, that is the best time for you to do so. You're smart enough to know that you have to have some good food in you to power that workout. As a result, you reach a conundrum.

I run in to this issue at least 2 times per week. I'll probably get flamed, and I know that a lot of guys will disagree, but here's what I do.

1) Cardio upon waking (45-60 min med to med-hi intensity)
2) Coffee after cardio (no sugar, no dairy)
3) Slow-burn protein (2 scoops), blended with 1 cup raw whole oats and about 1/2 cup low glycemic fruit (pitted cherries (fresh - not in syrup)) mixed with water.
4) Lift about an hour after that meal.
5) Fast-burn protein (2 scoop), blended with fast burn fruit & honey mixed with water
6) Within an hour, good hearty solid meal, with complex carbs & whole proteins.
7) Within 3 hours, good hearty solid meal with whole proteins & fibrous carbs
8) Within 3 hours, same as 7
9) Within 2-3 hourse, slow-burn protein (right before bed) mixed with just water.

Now, the second best timing of cardio, IMO, is PWO. At this time, you are forced to burn fat for the energy (so long as you don't go too high in intensity). So on the days that I can't do fasting cardio, I do it immediately after my lifting. In this case, I make sure to get in the slow-burn carbs & protein pre-workout, and follow the rest of the plan pretty much the same.

Some of this may seem unorthodox, but according to my records, I have maintained almost exactly the same body weight, but melted off almost 10 lbs of fat. This is in just under 4 weeks time.

your not going to get flamed for that. i dont disagree with that if its your only option.

good post compulut.

[yatyas314]

Good post is right thanks for the info the fats starting to melt off at about 2 pounds a week so i am happy... for now anyways

[compulut]

YY314,

Glad to hear that it worked for you. Are you keeping it off? And are you keeping with the guideline?

You may have to through in some cheat days, off gym days, or some sort of change to fool the system and prevent it from attempting to reach and equilibrium with your challenges.

[yatyas314]

I try and only cheat with onecheat meal a week butt i am very interested in the idea of cycling carbs although it seems as though what i am doing now has been working i have been keepin it off and i am very pleased with the results butt i feel like i am in a rut any advice would sure be appreciated

P.S this is my first serious diet so i am not sure where to mark my progress

[lil_big_junior]

Originally Posted by compulut

This is a good question, IMO, as I run into it from time to time as well. I'm assuming you're doing cardio first thing, in a fasted state, to maximize fat burning. I'm also assuming that you work out early in the day and, for whatever reason, that is the best time for you to do so. You're smart enough to know that you have to have some good food in you to power that workout. As a result, you reach a conundrum.

I run in to this issue at least 2 times per week. I'll probably get flamed, and I know that a lot of guys will disagree, but here's what I do.

1) Cardio upon waking (45-60 min med to med-hi intensity)
2) Coffee after cardio (no sugar, no dairy)
3) Slow-burn protein (2 scoops), blended with 1 cup raw whole oats and about 1/2 cup low glycemic fruit (pitted cherries (fresh - not in syrup)) mixed with water.
4) Lift about an hour after that meal.
5) Fast-burn protein (2 scoop), blended with fast burn fruit & honey mixed with water
6) Within an hour, good hearty solid meal, with complex carbs & whole proteins.
7) Within 3 hours, good hearty solid meal with whole proteins & fibrous carbs
8) Within 3 hours, same as 7
9) Within 2-3 hourse, slow-burn protein (right before bed) mixed with just water.

Now, the second best timing of cardio, IMO, is PWO. At this time, you are forced to burn fat for the energy (so long as you don't go too high in intensity). So on the days that I can't do fasting cardio, I do it immediately after my lifting. In this case, I make sure to get in the slow-burn carbs & protein pre-workout, and follow the rest of the plan pretty much the same.

Some of this may seem unorthodox, but according to my records, I have maintained almost exactly the same body weight, but melted off almost 10 lbs of fat. This is in just under 4 weeks time.

great post compulut

[bigbull]

good post compult