[heydespo5269]

While I'm at school, it's fairly easy to stay in my eating routine. Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Post Workout, Nightsnack, and then Casein before bed. Well, It's not so easy now with summer coming and my new work schedule.

So I go into work at about 3:30, and I leave when everyone is done eating/drink since i work at a bar/restaurant. I can be there as late as about 2:30 in the summer, but usually get out in may and june around 12:30-1:00 give or take.

So I don't know how to go about breaking my eating intervals up.


I was thinking, and this is way open to suggestion:

Breakfast: 9:30-10:00
Lift: 11-1:30 [avg. time takes to lift including drive to and from gym]
Post Workout Meal/Shake: 1:30-2:00


3:30 Work------

4:00----- "Lunch"

Now I need to get my dinner in some how [not only what time i should take it, but what i can eat on the run run run?], and maybe even like a powerbar because i'm running around all night, so i'm probably burning the extra calories anyway.

anyways, it's a little vague, but once i get the time intervals down, i'll post exactly what i eat.


Bed- Casein, whenever that may be that i actually sleep


BTW, i'm not sure this coudl work, but i thought about taking my casein shake while at work for dinner with some carbs, because that's easy and quick on the run, then having a real food dinner at the end of the night. only probelm is, will i get "fat" eating a meal and then literally jumping into bed?

[wrestlingstalion]

ummmm try like carnation isntant breakfast shakes. like 3 paks made with mile and add some peanut butter. thats what i do at work. but i also eat a meal after work not just cassien

[compulut]

Despo - I'm actually one of the biggest proponents of getting as many calories as possible from whole natural foods, but why not have a shake at work (for the ease) and then one at BT (like the casein for the slower absorption).

If you're already doing casein last, you're just replacing another meal with the shake, and should have no concerns about additional fat from that regard.

[heydespo5269]

Originally Posted by compulut

Despo - I'm actually one of the biggest proponents of getting as many calories as possible from whole natural foods, but why not have a shake at work (for the ease) and then one at BT (like the casein for the slower absorption).

If you're already doing casein last, you're just replacing another meal with the shake, and should have no concerns about additional fat from that regard.

so your saying have a shake for dinner at work, like a MRP....then casein before bed?

or are you saying take casein or MRP at work, then eat a small meal before bed [which i would like to do, but i just don't wanna have a full stomach, go right to bed, and it end up not being used/burned= fat]

[compulut]

Originally Posted by heydespo5269

so your saying have a shake for dinner at work, like a MRP....then casein before bed?

or are you saying take casein or MRP at work, then eat a small meal before bed [which i would like to do, but i just don't wanna have a full stomach, go right to bed, and it end up not being used/burned= fat]

I'm suggesting MRP as opposed to meal at work (for ease), but still casein protein before bed. Since the casein is going to metabolize slower than most other forms of protein, you're lessening the risk of starving the muscles over night.

If you were to have a meal meal at bedtime, you would be more likely to ingest a faster absorbing protein, as well as more likely to consume foods that will convert to the dreaded bodyfat over night.

IMO

[heydespo5269]

Originally Posted by compulut

I'm suggesting MRP as opposed to meal at work (for ease), but still casein protein before bed. Since the casein is going to metabolize slower than most other forms of protein, you're lessening the risk of starving the muscles over night.

If you were to have a meal meal at bedtime, you would be more likely to ingest a faster absorbing protein, as well as more likely to consume foods that will convert to the dreaded bodyfat over night.

IMO

alright. that all makes sense. i'm only going to be gettin two solid meals during the day. either i can do a real heavy shake during work as my dinner, or I can do a leaner MRP and eat a bar like another hour or two after that.

would u suggest this:
Bodybuilding.com - TKE Monster Food - Anabolic Mass Booster On sale now! [as dinner]

or Bodybuilding.com - ISS Research Complete Pro Power - Mixes Instantly! On sale now! and some kind of power bar a little afterwards.


and, sometimes, being a restaurant and all, certain nights can get slow enough to eat [although not very often where i work], i'll just eat some chicken/potatos from the kitchen.....my grandfather owns the place so i can get away with that

[compulut]

Despo - I'm afraid I can't help much on the choices you list for dinner. I generally get all of my calories from whole foods, with the exception of my casein shake at bed time. "Optimum Nutrition 100% Casein". You may find something you like better than the ones that you listed by checking out the site sponsors. OR - check out the recipe section, and make your own.

One thing you could try, though, is swapping whole foods for your after workout meal. That way you're back to 3 meals, 2 substitutes, instead of 2 meals, 3 substitutes.

Either way, take a close look at the nutrition labels (or build your own label on NutritionData.com) and pick a substitute meal that fits well with your goals.

Hope that helps.

[heydespo5269]

Originally Posted by compulut

Despo - I'm afraid I can't help much on the choices you list for dinner. I generally get all of my calories from whole foods, with the exception of my casein shake at bed time. "Optimum Nutrition 100% Casein". You may find something you like better than the ones that you listed by checking out the site sponsors. OR - check out the recipe section, and make your own.

One thing you could try, though, is swapping whole foods for your after workout meal. That way you're back to 3 meals, 2 substitutes, instead of 2 meals, 3 substitutes.

Either way, take a close look at the nutrition labels (or build your own label on NutritionData.com) and pick a substitute meal that fits well with your goals.

Hope that helps.

I'll have to do some detective work. Just outta curiosity, whats wrong with those choices for dinner? could you not help becuase you don't know how many protein/carbs etc I need, or you just didn't like them?

[compulut]

Originally Posted by heydespo5269

I'll have to do some detective work. Just outta curiosity, whats wrong with those choices for dinner? could you not help becuase you don't know how many protein/carbs etc I need, or you just didn't like them?

Absolutely nothing wrong with them - that I know of. Unfortunately, nothing good about them either - that I know of, at least from personal experience.

I'm fortunate to have the luxury of the time, know-how & desire to prepare all of my own foods, as a general rule. This way, I can pronounce all of the ingredients, and I KNOW there is no added salt, sugar, fat (or saturated fat or trans fat), or preservatives, etc. unless I put it in there. You get the idea. Other than the Casein that I have at bedtime, all of my other meals come from whole sources. As a result, I don't spend much effort on researching the latest greatest products out there.

As for the two that you've listed, what jumps out to me, is the carbohydrate and over-all caloric quantities. For the Monster food, it boasts 1190 calories per serving (when made with milk). If you're eating 5-7 meals per day, (assuming all of your meals are this size) that equates to 6,000 - 8500 calories roughly. Way too high for my needs. I believe I saw in one of your posts that your BW = 175? This type of calorie range would IMO be way too high for you as well.

Remember, that our bodies can only process so much food at one time. Wheather your foods are nutrient dense, or completely devoid of them, anything that your body can not use is a waste. If I'm not mistaken, this means that it's either going to be stored as fat for later usage, or shat right out, eventually.

Based on this alone, I would look towards the pro power. Additionally, it's more cost efficient. At roughly $2.00 per serving for the Monster Food, compared with about $1.43 per serving for the Pro Power. Either way, I think you can probably find more cost-effective options.

For either of them though, (as with all foods that I buy) I look towards the bottom of the label, not just the top. When the ingredient list takes more space on the label than the nutritional content, OR when the ingredients sound more like 'substances' than like 'foods', I usually keep on looking - at something else.

[heydespo5269]

pro power and a granola bar, thanks.