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Old 12-25-2006, 10:58 PM   #1
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Im 20 years old 6 foot and 350 lbs... ive ate junk food up till a month ago till my buddy took me to the gym, sense then ive been goin to the gym everyday.. workin a diffrent muscle group everyday and runnin on the tread mill for an hour or more a day.I tried takin hydroxy cut and one of my buddies told me i should take eas Phosphagen HP instead..SO i went out and bought that and take it 2 times a day..MY arms are pretty solid and my legs are pretty soild also...
I Cut out carbs completly and eat salads and no fat shit now and eat red meats and chicken for lunch and dinner

I Bench 245 and legg press 550
the problem i have is my gut im not lookin for abs im just lookin for its to be more flat..In the end i was just lookin for tips on what to do and if i should keep takin the phosphagen and what i should do to reduce the gut thanks for ur time
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Old 12-25-2006, 11:18 PM   #2
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Woah there buddy. First of all, you don't want to lose more than 2 pounds a week. I know this may seem a bit low, but if you lose too much weigh your body won't have time to shrink in on itself, the skin won't contract as well as it would otherwise. If you loose too much weight a week you will also lose a fair deal of muscle as well.

This is what you should do, cut back on your cardio a bit, too much will also cause decreases in muscle. Drop it down to 45 or 30 minutes at the most. What is your current routine for your lifting stuff?

What you ideally need to do is to train normally and keep track of all your intake over the day in terms of calories, protein, carbs and fat. Carbs are essential to take even if your cutting weight, you need them for long term energy. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but when you don't have carbs as a source for energy your body uses protein and fat to synthesis it into energy, if you don't take enough protein you won't get muscle gains. The point is, after you find the amount of calories you need a week to keep the same weight then you need to alter your diet. For instance if you only needed 3000 calories a day to mantain body weight you would cut off 500 calories worth of food at least, you'll lose a pound of weight a week like this, if you cut it lower like down 1000 you'll lose two pounds a week.

Your training is very important in this, you want to train to sustain muscle size. Whenever you lose weight you will lose muscle size but it is important to try to hold onto as much as you can.
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 12:03 AM   #3
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Your correct Thomas. When no carbs are present amino acids are broken down (Leucine is broken down to alanine which is then converted to blood sugar by the liver) and the glycerol of fatty acids can be converted to glucose. Both of these processes are very inefficient and glycerol yields very little glucose so not a smart choice. Like Thomas stated just stick to complex carbs throughout the day. Also check out this article: Bodybuilding.com - Layne Norton - A Unique Combination Of Science And Experience Based Pre-Contest Advice.

Oh and take some pictures and measurements as you go along to track your progress. That is one thing I really wish I would have done throughout my transformation.
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:32 AM   #4
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Im confused what complex carbs are..ive been off my diet for 3 days due to the holidays

but this is what i normally eat...

wake up 9:30-10

Grille on the george forman grille
2-3 pork chops or,
2-3 pieces of chicken,or
2-3 pieces of steak.,
Or at my aunts resturant a steak and mushroom wrap with a salad
Water to drink

Before i go to the gym @ 11 i drink a glass of Phosphagen HP

work out 2 muscle groups
Walk/run on the tread mill for an hour or so keeping my heart rate @ 133 or below
then i go in the sauna

After i leave the gym i take another glass of phosphagen HP

THen lunch it varys what i eat... most likley a wrap or a steak or chicken with no carbs...

THen for dinner at work i eat free so i make steak and put it on a salad or eat rib eye steak with steak sauce and thats it...

Thats what i do daily..
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:36 AM   #5
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And should i be takin the phosphagen hp still or the hydroxy cut?
or what should i be taking, and what classifys as a complex carb.

sorry for my newb questions....
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:39 AM   #6
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cardio and diet lots and lots of cardio and diet
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 12:17 PM   #7
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Carbs as most know come in 3 varieties, Simple, complex, and fibirous. Simple carbs are any carbohydrate source that raises insulin levels substantually. i. e. any type of sugar( save fructose, and sugar substitutes) certain pasta's, white breads, white flours, white rice, white potatoes, sugary cereals, processed foods (shit that comes in microwavable boxes) etc. Fibirous carbs are anything green i.e. romaine lettuce(iceburg should be avoided) Snap peas, broccoli, asparagus, califlour, etc. Also fibirous carbs can also come from supplementing with fiber itself, in forms of fiber therapies, fiber proteins, fiber flavoids, etc. Now carbohydrates that are complex are carbs that recieve a rating on the glycemic index of 55 and lower. There are lots, and lots of foods that meet this level or go below it, but if you are truly dieting, I'm only going to give you the nastiest tasting healthy options available. Quinoa, a very fibirous, complex carb that is like barley in consistency and texture. Barley-same as quinoa only this carb is the absolute lowest, most complex carb on the planet, also the nastiest tasting. Oatmeal, Plain Oatmeal, actually all of these carbs should have nothing in them, except for maybe cinnamon and splenda, but that's it. Sweet potatoes-they're name is decieving but this little treat is lower on the glycemic index than any of its relatives(white potatoes, red potatoes, White sweet potatoes) It's flesh should be orange, not white. And of course Basmati Brown rice, (plain), hahaha, this shit is sooo nasty it's not even funny but if you are dieting you better man up to a plate of this good lovin or you're not truly dieting. So there is my list of the most complex cabs in existence.
Now how YOU should use these little numbers. One, jump off that low-carb diet...You'll hit the wall sooner or later so start introducing these wonderful carbo's in your life again. Stay away from all fast digesting, simple carbohydrates, because they raise insulin levels and insulin being the most powerful hormone in your body has either the abilty to fuel protein synthesis or make those carbs turn into fat. Fast carbo's should only be utilized After a workout and that's it. Don't touch this shit at any other time of day, night, twilight, dawn, I don't give a shit don't touch it. Eat all the Fibirous carbs your mouth can handle, NO ONE HAS EVER GOTTEN FAT FROM EATING TOO MANY VEGETABLES, well veggies that are butterless mind you. Now Complex carbies...Alright, this is simple-eat these in the morning after your morning cardao-sess, again before your workout, and again after your workout if you choose to skip fast carbo's altogether. Eat no more carbs at anytime of day. This will make you tired, and drained no doubt, so now you start eating nuts, oz. of wonderful nuts. Also supplementing with fish oils and primrose oils are also good things too. That's the answer to the carb question, my response to going zero-low carb diets(directly aimed at the fatty who started this thread) And my take of carbs themselves. Peace peeps, I've got my cardao to attend to.
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 12:18 PM   #8
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fibrous** spelling error
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 12:19 PM   #9
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You really want to avoid pork (high in fat) good source of thiamin though. Complex carbs are food such as whole wheat pasta, oatmeal, yams, sweet potatoes, brown rice. Comparatively simple carbohydrates are sources like white rice, pop, fruit. Check out The Glycemic Index. CHECK OUT LAYNE'S ARTICLE I POSTED ABOVE. It takes at the most 10 minutes to read and it covers many of the questions you are asking. We are more than happy to help you but when you ask what complex carbs are it is a little disheartening.
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THANKS ...amazing but some guys dont know the differencebetween mashed potatoes and broccoli..
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:40 PM   #11
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For breakfast eat eggs, boiled eggs are quick and a good source of protein. Eat around 12 egg whites and two egg yolks with them, about forty grams of protein right there.
 
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MAN THIS WEBSITE IS AWESOME! This isn't even my thread, but I still learned a lot of info that I need as well. I am about 280 and probably easy to say around 25-30% bodyfat. I really need to lose fat. Thanks for the question and for all you guys taking the time to answer!!! I really appreciate it as well!
 
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