[ZiR RED]

I suppose we should clarify soreness vs. stiffness. You should feel a bit stiff in the muscles you trained the previous day. You should not feel painfully sore. It should not be excruciating to walk down stairs, or raise your arm. These are signs of poor conditioning and new recruitments and/or patterns.

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[Sed]

before I took some time of BB I stopped getting sore, and I tried but I couldnt do more reps/sets then I did and couldnt go for higher weight (because I couldnt move it with correct form) but these days I do again, dam I was sore after legday (especially since thats my weak spot and I havent had all workout options to work them at home)

[Prinny]

You're supposed to feel at least a bit sore after doing a workout. Make sure you vary your workout though and have something different for everday of the week cause you might of hit the plateau.

[Rodm21]

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but try pre-exhaustion sets if you really want to remember what a sore muscle feels like. Those + negatives should result in some soreness if you target a specific muscle group. Be careful not to over-train and be safe with your lifts (especially negatives).

[AlteredBeast]

In the 8 years i have been lifting soreness has always been an indicator of growth for me. If i'm not sore the day after of two days after then there's a problem.

[binksy]

tbh
i first started working out and i ached most the time, now i dont ache as much but i do ache a bit after.
depends how much i do, however if ido cardio i tend to strain my legs easy.

[smokey]

i agree that soreness is not necessarily an indication of progress

however i dont believe increases in strength are either

ofcourse this depends on what your goal is


if you want to get big then lifting heavier doesnt always mean your going to be bigger

how do explain 180 pound powerlifters that can bench 400 pounds and 300 pound bodybuilders that can only dream of benching 400 pounds?


strength is generally an increase in density of fibres whilst size relates to tearing and stretching of the mitochondira and z-disks (that connect the fibres).

I had the same problem as you and i found that constantly changing up my workout kept my body guessing, made me sore and gave me gains


remember arnie never did the same workout twice

[CrUsH]

Im usually sore after every workout. Legs are by far the worse, they are growing pretty quickly too. If they are sore, and its time to train them again, Ill take another day of rest. There are some muscles that are harder to get sore. Bi's and Tri's and also traps. Shoulders for me are very difficult to get sore. But they are also my most developed I guess.


I think soreness in moderation is a good thing. Too much and maybee you over did it, another day of rest wont kill ya.

[MikeNYY420]

^ If your sore for more than 2 days that's usually overtraining. Either train less or eat more... much much more.

[smokey]

i completely disagree that over 2 days of soreness means youve overtrained

two weeks ago i did a chest day that consisted of only bench press variations, it was all up about 12 sets and only took about 30 mins. My chest was sore for almost 6 days.

Overtraining usually refers to breaking down muscle fibres that are still recovering OR training so long that your ATP and sugar stores are depleted and your body begins digging into your muscle for energy

soreness, like i said in my previous post, is usually attributed to the inflamation of fibres and the stretching of the z-disks and eating more is not going to speed up the process of recovery

[under construction]

if the overtraining part is true I do it routinely.

[MikeNYY420]

I think I heard Zir say that at one point not 100% on that though now that you mention it. But I know you shouldn't be sore for 6 days.

[CrUsH]

Well all I know is that I strive to become sore. I break the muscle down as much as I can, if my body is still sore when I try to work that body part again, then Ill just take another day of rest. This routine has gained me 12 lbs of lean mass in 4 months.