any supplement that doesn't alter your body's natural testosterone levels IS natural...tribulas &
zma i consider as natural, anything else like any PH, DHEA, AAS', GH, or GF isn't.
natural bbders can use
nitrix
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Currently: 272lbs, 13% bf
Squat : 630lbs X5
Deadlift : 600lbs X8
Bench : 530lbs X1 (Raw, SMITH)