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Old 11-11-2007, 01:37 PM   #211
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Im natural and have been for the past 7 years of training ! Im 30 , Have what i consider a very good frame of which I get head-turning looks in the street so very noticeable ! I wont lie I have thought of starting a cycle but I personally believe there to be too many negative points than pos ones ! plus these pharmacys expect you to pay 100s of £££ per one order ! What a farse ! And then theres getting past customs if its an international supplier ! Even then there are so many dodgy fake suppliers. And I havnt even started on the side affects of your health while taking such a drug ! It should be common knowledge so I wont create a list of all the health risks !

But above all I wish to build quality dry muscle mass I have put all these years into doing and not be a " one minute wonder " and to be respected as a natty BB'er.
 
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:45 PM   #212
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Because I cant find roids
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:25 PM   #213
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I would probably use steroids eventually. I'm sure when im in my late 30s and up I will get testosterone replacement at the very least.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:52 AM   #214
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Previously Posted by Poison Ivy: "And I havnt even started on the side affects of your health while taking such a drug ! It should be common knowledge so I wont create a list of all the health risks ! "

I'm not trying to bring you down and tell you that you're not entitled to your opinion, but there is little evidence if any at all that proves there are long term negative side effects in healthy adult men while using anabolic steroids. First of all not orally obviously and of course there are the short term effects that are likely to be noticed such as acne, loss of hair, rises in bad cholesterol and falls in good cholesterol, and a couple others. However, to say that a healthy adult male using steroids (not abusing them) is at a great health risk is a bit of an exaggeration if you ask me.
 
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:06 AM   #215
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reps are in order for this guy.
its true. i have to explain, bring references, and links and all sorts of other stuff which takes me hours to round up into my arguements just to break the common perception of anabolic drugs.
 
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:19 AM   #216
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I decided to be natural so i can work my ass off and prove that i can look just as good naturally than the guy who takes steroids. I feel if i train hard enough and long enough and eat what i need to eat, i can accomplish that goal.
 
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:23 AM   #217
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go for gold man!! look slike we have a similar goal hehe
 
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:29 PM   #218
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working for a harder rewarder is much more enjoyed than a one cheated on by with steroids
 
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:37 PM   #219
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It's not really cheating though, just because you take steroids doesn't mean you are going to be huge. You still have to work your ass off to build muscle and the food consumption can be mind boggling. Besides in the IFBB if everybody does AAS is it still cheating?
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:57 PM   #220
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Previously Posted by Poison Ivy: "And I havnt even started on the side affects of your health while taking such a drug ! It should be common knowledge so I wont create a list of all the health risks ! "

I'm not trying to bring you down and tell you that you're not entitled to your opinion, but there is little evidence if any at all that proves there are long term negative side effects in healthy adult men while using anabolic steroids. First of all not orally obviously and of course there are the short term effects that are likely to be noticed such as acne, loss of hair, rises in bad cholesterol and falls in good cholesterol, and a couple others. However, to say that a healthy adult male using steroids (not abusing them) is at a great health risk is a bit of an exaggeration if you ask me.
Long term, short term, few cycles !! WHO CARES, thats not an acceptable reply to my post. lol at the end of the day it WILL affect you in whatever DEGREE it does affect the user ! If a suitable PCT is taken then perhaps the effects will not be as bad as someone taking without it. Why are they Illegal / Banned ?

Now abusing steroids is not what I was getting at either ! If you were to abuse then your asking for trouble but when it comes to the crunch ... Toxins etc from the drug WILL be very very harmful ! Whether low or high amounts .. face facts, and not live in denial

Short term affects will physically and mentally appear, Now if you think of what the short term affects do to the body what the heck do you think long term use will do ?? And you have only named a few of the more minor side affects and not life threatening short term affects. Can i ask .... do you use enhanced drugs ??
If you say yes to that .. then I rest my case.
 
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:59 PM   #221
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reps are in order for this guy.
its true. i have to explain, bring references, and links and all sorts of other stuff which takes me hours to round up into my arguements just to break the common perception of anabolic drugs.
Reps are in order for this guy ??? FOR WHOOOO

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Old 11-13-2007, 07:05 PM   #222
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I dont use them because i'm too young,and my genetics got me covered in getting bigger,but I will use them eventually.In my opinion steroids are like beer:if your only having 1 can a day nothing will happen to you,if you drink a 12 pack than you'll be screwed.
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