[bbdude]

yeah...

[Freak]

Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

like buying from a skinny dude at the gym n he weighs nomore than ur left leg...that is dodgy as fuck....

I have a list of quotes in a word document and that is definitely going in it.

LMAO!!! Good one LBJ!

[swollaznguy]

max out your genetic potential first and then consider. If you actually think about it....People using stuff probably works out harder because they know they will grow compared to some natural people who once they reached their peak will just workout because they don't want to lose what they've gained.

this is my opinion though.

On roids in the IFBB. If I was a pro and to make a good living in it I would take what they take too. Why not.

Its a sad fact that a lot of people think that a lot of pros in football, basketball, baseball, etc. dont take roids or growth hormone. That is full of crap. Everyone it the upper crust takes stuff. In order to make that new big contract, they do whatever it takes. Trust me a buddy of mine recently played WR at a Division 1 football that is not even in the upper half of all Div 1 schools' wanted to know if i knew someone that can get 20 bottles of winstrol for him and his teammates. I told him no of course! haha!

whether you use it or not, it doesn't matter. As long as you work hard and are happy with your progress thats all that matters.

[lil_big_junior]

glad u like the quote freak, lol

[bbdude]

Originally Posted by swollaznguy

max out your genetic potential first and then consider. If you actually think about it....People using stuff probably works out harder because they know they will grow compared to some natural people who once they reached their peak will just workout because they don't want to lose what they've gained.

this is my opinion though.

On roids in the IFBB. If I was a pro and to make a good living in it I would take what they take too. Why not.

Its a sad fact that a lot of people think that a lot of pros in football, basketball, baseball, etc. dont take roids or growth hormone. That is full of crap. Everyone it the upper crust takes stuff. In order to make that new big contract, they do whatever it takes. Trust me a buddy of mine recently played WR at a Division 1 football that is not even in the upper half of all Div 1 schools' wanted to know if i knew someone that can get 20 bottles of winstrol for him and his teammates. I told him no of course! haha!

whether you use it or not, it doesn't matter. As long as you work hard and are happy with your progress thats all that matters.

so ALL basketball players take HGH??

[swollaznguy]

Yeah! just cuz you think basketball players are tall and skinny that makes them natural?

Did you know swimmers are 6'4 too and they get tested for storoids like crazy?

Steroids makes you advance in what you excell in. In bodybuilding you make your body sculp more muscle.

In football you are faster, quicker, explosive, and pound for pound stronger.

Baseball it makes a guy that can hit a baseball (Bonds) hit it further.

basketball its makes them quicker, agile, and faster.

etc, etc, etc,

gear makes any pro play even better then what they are capable of.

Doesnt mean that if joe smoe takes gear than he will become a world class athlete.

Baseball is the easiest example. If you cant hit a baseball, do you honestly think you can hit one if you take gear? That is pure skill that seperates pros from joes.

gear just makes them better. Like that 3M commercial, "we don't make a lot of things in this world, we just make them better."

Haha! I love talking about this heated debate with sports.

[bbdude]

so u say that ALL does it??

[lil_big_junior]

swollaznguy - how much do u know bout steriods??? im just curious to know that all these pro atheletes take gear for speed, agility & makes them better & more capable in playing sports etc...i wanna know what sort of steriods make u into superman cos i want some...AAS are mainly made up of test so your aggression is alot higher than the average person & yes strength will be phenominal but agility & speed WTF. for a pro bball player to be on gear dont improve his\her awareness, ball handle, shot more accurate & on target, so how do u mean??? play better than what they're capable off...its like you're branding kobe bryant a cheat cos he can dunk from top of the key, SO QUESTION HIM he might just be juicing cos he can jump high, or accusing shak for taking gh cos he's soooo damn big...some sports like baseball, & football i can understand juicing, but fuck me basketball...some ppl are so anal to juice n think its a wonder drug but dont even know their ass's from their elbows...come now

[bbdude]

i love that u said that LBJ.. i couldnt agree more... i would rep u if it wasnt u i repped last =( i cant right now...

[swollaznguy]

Glad you read it and but you misunderstood me.

Its a known fact that steroids does in fact decrease reaction time, with that in mind a person's 40 yard dash, agility drills time, and anything short burst type running time would be significantly decreased.

about basketball, like i said those things that you described like awareness, ball handle, shot more accurate & on target those can not be affected by steroids. Its just like I said about a baseball batter. If his batting avg is .298 but he the furthest he can hit is 275, once he gets roids, hgh, etc. he'll hit it 300+ instead with the same batting avg.

have you ever compared the difference of sports from highschool, college, and the pros? The difference between those three levels is SPEED and tempo of the game. You have to be faster, quicker, more explosive as you move on to the next level. Thats the difference between intramurals and the next level.

you made a valid point but I dont think we see the same picture. Obviously you didnt read the post about basketball wrote earlier cuz it said nothing about awareness, ball handle, shot more accurate & on target. I hope this will help.