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Old 03-31-2007, 02:36 PM   #121
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About 375-500g of carbohydrates can be stored as glycogen in the body which equates to 1500-2000 calories. This is for the normal human. In a trained athlete maximum glycogen storage is 15g/kg. Glycogen is accompanied by 3g of water.

1 day could be enough to deplete glycogen stores, it depends on several factors but not limited to:

The intensity and duration of the activity, the glycogen storage ability of the individual person (are they an athlete or lazy bum) and do they refill their glycogen storage after workout to increase glycogen storage capacity, your the times you eat your carbs and if you spread your meals throughout the day. Moderate to high intensity will speed up glycogen depletion while slow intensity primarily uses lipids for energy.

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Old 03-31-2007, 02:58 PM   #122
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Still no edit button Webmaster :(

So if you totally completed your glycogen storage:

Carbs: 500g
Water: 1500g (500 x 3)

Total: 2000g = 4.4 lbs

Depending on your diet/activity it may take 24-36 hours or more to re-fill your glycogen stores completely.

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Old 03-31-2007, 03:57 PM   #123
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About 375-500g of carbohydrates can be stored as glycogen in the body which equates to 1500-2000 calories. This is for the normal human. In a trained athlete maximum glycogen storage is 15g/kg. Glycogen is accompanied by 3g of water.

1 day could be enough to deplete glycogen stores, it depends on several factors but not limited to:

The intensity and duration of the activity, the glycogen storage ability of the individual person (are they an athlete or lazy bum) and do they refill their glycogen storage after workout to increase glycogen storage capacity, your the times you eat your carbs and if you spread your meals throughout the day. Moderate to high intensity will speed up glycogen depletion while slow intensity primarily uses lipids for energy.

I hope this helps!

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Thank you thefreak.....the information you just provided is very valuable for me................................................ ....Base on what your are saying it seems that I actually depleted my glycogen stores because The intensity of my workout was very high......basically I did between 25-30 minutes non stop.

I am planning to eat the following amounts of carbs before I weight my self today:

Oatmeal 1.5cups = 81 grams
Veggies: 1 cup = 13.5 grams
Rice 1 cup = 44.5 grams
Veggies 1 cup = 13.5 grams
Oatmeal 1 cup = 54 grams

Total: ................206.5 grams x 3gr (water) = 618 grams / 454 grams per lb = 1.36 lbs

So if I am correct I should be weighing 199 + 1.36 = 200.36 lbs today.....this will put me where I want!!!!!!!!

I will keep my fingers crossed!!!

Finally I want to thank thefreak for his active participation in this thread.....
 
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Old 03-31-2007, 04:21 PM   #124
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The water accompanying your carbs: 619.5g
The carbs themselves: 206.5

Total (g): 826g

Total (lb): 1.82 lbs

Thank you for always keeping the thread up to date and very detailed.
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:13 AM   #125
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Update...... Week 13 (199lbs @ 4.9%)

I took the risk and I lost!!!! .....to make the story short I weighed my self on Saturday and my weight didn’t change at all. I ended up weighting 199 lbs..........in some ways my instinct told me not to try the new training HIT Training however I got really exited about the science behind the workout (Growth hormone release and other stuff) that I decided to give it a try.............The results I lost muscle again!!! (Under these circumstances it’s too hard on the body) ........However I have to say that I lost also a ton of fat (almost 2 lbs that is equivalent to almost 1% in Body-fat). I moved from 5.68% to 4.9% BF.

Also (If you can remember)....last Saturday I started to carb-up in hopes to replenish my glycogen stores so I ate 206 grams of carbs during the day to try to increase my weight .....and the results ...the bascule didn’t move!!!!!!!!! Still 199 lbs!!!!! Then I thought that maybe I didn’t eat enough carbs so I kept carbing up until Sunday (1:00 pm) and the results ..............the bascule did not move again!!!!!!!! At this point I just stopped taking carbs and relaxed the rest of the day................

I have learned a lot in the last few weeks and based on my experiences I want to comment the following:

1.Try no to make drastic changes in your diet in order to speed up the fat burning process.
2.If you need to make a change....be prepared for the unexpected. Try to minimize the risks looking at all the variables that will play together (Calories Removes per day, per week, amount of carbs, proteins, fats etc)
3.You can use math to try to estimate how your body will behave however your body will always works things his way.......its like playing chess against and organism with thousands of years of evolution.
4.It seems that the leaner you get the better the body can handle carbs. I started eating carbs every 2 days and now I am eating them every other day with good result. (However that will depend on your body type) I am an Ectomorph.
5.Also try not to make drastic changes in your training while dieting. Save those techniques and training methods for your bulking cycle or to break through a plateau.
6.Don’t under estimate the power of HIT cardio and HIT training. They are very powerful tools.... so use them wisely.
7.While dieting you need to focus on stimulate your muscles not annihilate them!!!! You won’t be able to supply what the body needs to gets repaired. Instead just keep lifting heavy, feel the muscles working and let the cardio and your diet take care of the fat.

Ok guys that’s all for now..............check the attachment for last week details

Have a nice day

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Old 04-02-2007, 10:15 AM   #126
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God you guys are serious! Cool to see, but so diff from myself. If I want size I eat more and lift heavier, to cut I eat less and do cardio.

Props to all you naturals that press the body and brain to get to the next level. It's amazing to read.
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Old 04-02-2007, 11:45 AM   #127
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God you guys are serious! Cool to see, but so diff from myself. If I want size I eat more and lift heavier, to cut I eat less and do cardio.

Props to all you naturals that press the body and brain to get to the next level. It's amazing to read.
Thank you for your comments Flytrapcan..........also thank you for making your first post here!!!!

See you around bro

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Old 04-02-2007, 02:47 PM   #128
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hi there Francisco, im am very shocked with ur dedication to the sport. great work man keep it up. dont listen to any one that trys to put u down.ur doing a great job. first off i will like to coment on ur last cutting cycle bro. u looked great dude, whats ur height? also how much was ur bf % during that time? as for the cardio, i personally think to stick with low intensity cardio. heres a great article written by ifbb pro bob chicerillo: Bodybuilding.com - Bob Cicherillo - Slow Cardio: Great Technique Or Bad Advice?

also bodybuilding.com has a lot of information and it will help u alot in ur attempt of becoming ripped. just type in what ur looking for in the search and it will give u a million articles.

peace and keep up the hard work.
 
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:20 PM   #129
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Hi Francisco! On the bright side you lost twice as much fat as what you lost in muscle. I like when you do reviews of what you have learned. When you get to the end of this journey we need to review this entire thread and get an entire review so you have it all in one place for your next cut.

Also, when this cut is over it would be awesome if you would post some side-by-side before/after pics.

Have a nice day!
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hi there Francisco, im am very shocked with ur dedication to the sport. great work man keep it up. dont listen to any one that trys to put u down.ur doing a great job. first off i will like to coment on ur last cutting cycle bro. u looked great dude, whats ur height? also how much was ur bf % during that time? as for the cardio, i personally think to stick with low intensity cardio. heres a great article written by ifbb pro bob chicerillo: Bodybuilding.com - Bob Cicherillo - Slow Cardio: Great Technique Or Bad Advice?

also bodybuilding.com has a lot of information and it will help u alot in ur attempt of becoming ripped. just type in what ur looking for in the search and it will give u a million articles.

peace and keep up the hard work.
Thank you absboy for the kind words..........comments like yours give me the energy to keep pushing... specially now that I am dying for a slice of pizza or something that at least tastes good jejee............Concerning to your second question i am 5’ 10” and in my last cutting I was about 4% BF (with Calipers / they measure lower that your real BF). On the other hand thank you for the advice and the link....... I will go ahead and read that article right now..........

Thank you again bro.......take care!!!!

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