[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by eliosgator

Very organized and tough program. I am sure that you will gain more than 10-lbs of muscle.
Are you currently lifting the weights that you posted, or that's your target at the end of the bulking cycle? And how are you planning to increase your lifting weights?
Good luck with the new program Chico!!!

Elie....those are my target weights....hopefully I will achieve those weights in the next 10-12 months......Concerning to your question about increasing my lifts I basically use a progression method (5x5program). In the method that I am using you basically increase the weight by 5-10 lbs every other week....in other words you load one week and de-load in the next one. See example below:

Week 1: 100 lbs
Week 2: 110 lbs
Week 3: 100 lbs
Week 4: 110 lbs
Week 5: 120 lbs
Week 6: 110 lbs
Week 7: 120 lbs
Week 8: 130 lbs
Repeat

It is important to de-load so your muscles and tendons get used to the new weight......if you try to do it in linear fashion you will stagnate or injure your self.

[ZachNasty]

Hey Fmoncas, do you just use that 5*5 programs for your incline barbell press, then go own to the rest of your trainig a different way....Like upper chest is my weak point in my chest so is that something that I could use to increase muscle size and strength, and then go on to flat press and use say a rep range of 6-10 and then do 2 isolation exercises and use a rep range of 15-100....I just always felt that tricking your muscles and experminenting new things is the way to go....Thanks for your help man..I read alot of your great information and it insipres me that if you work hard and have a great mind for the sport, you can do whatever you like naaturally....thanks again

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Hey Fmoncas, do you just use that 5*5 programs for your incline barbell press, then go own to the rest of your trainig a different way....Like upper chest is my weak point in my chest so is that something that I could use to increase muscle size and strength, and then go on to flat press and use say a rep range of 6-10 and then do 2 isolation exercises and use a rep range of 15-100....I just always felt that tricking your muscles and experminenting new things is the way to go....Thanks for your help man..I read alot of your great information and it insipres me that if you work hard and have a great mind for the sport, you can do whatever you like naaturally....thanks again

Yes bro!! Exactly!! I basically pick-up 3 or 4 compound movements .... one for every major muscle group (chest, Legs, back and/or shoulders) those will be my main lifts and I will focus on increasing gradually my weights in those exercises. (Using the 5x5 program) then I pick up 2 or 3 auxiliary exercises for every muscle group. With the aux exercises I try also to increase the weight every time and change ...rep ranges, intensity, and the exercises it self so my body never get used to the same thing.

I hope this helps

Take care,

Francisco

[ZachNasty]

Ok I think i understand it...let me try to lay it out if you dont mind.

Say for chest i pick incline and use the 5*5 program
then next i do flat for 3-4 sets increaing weight and reps to shock the muscles. Then ill do maybe a fly for reps in 15-100 range to also make them muscles think...Is this sort of what your talking about.

Or could I maybe use something like this.

Incline Barbell Chest- 5*5 using that reload comcept.
Flat Barbell Chest- 3-4 sets of 6-10 reps
Chest Dumbell Sqeeze Press- 3-4 sets of 15-100
Then to finish maybe a crossover or flye with sets of 3-4 and reps of 15-100.

How does this sound. I will also incorporate the same concept for each other bodypart. I just got really interested in the way you explain things and this sounds like a great way to make your muscles think.

[ZachNasty]

Ok one last thing to that training idea...When i would train arms and calves, am I looking to stick with about 2-3 aux exercies or should I add 1 sets of something that is in the 6-10 rep range. Say todays is chest day and i am using that 5*5 program and im going to use 225 for 5 for the first set. Am I going to use that same weight for the next 4 times???Im sorry for making it sound all confusing. I am just trying to learn..Thanks bro

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Ok I think i understand it...let me try to lay it out if you dont mind.

Say for chest i pick incline and use the 5*5 program
then next i do flat for 3-4 sets increaing weight and reps to shock the muscles. Then ill do maybe a fly for reps in 15-100 range to also make them muscles think...Is this sort of what your talking about.

Or could I maybe use something like this.

Incline Barbell Chest- 5*5 using that reload comcept.
Flat Barbell Chest- 3-4 sets of 6-10 reps
Chest Dumbell Sqeeze Press- 3-4 sets of 15-100
Then to finish maybe a crossover or flye with sets of 3-4 and reps of 15-100.

How does this sound. I will also incorporate the same concept for each other bodypart. I just got really interested in the way you explain things and this sounds like a great way to make your muscles think.

Both options are ok as long as you keep progressing in the main exercise. Lets say you pick incline bench for your chest as your main exercise and complete the 5 sets of 5 reps...then you just need to pick up 3 more auxiliary exercises and...... with those exercises you can:

1.Use the same exercises every week but gradually increase or change (in every session) the Reps, Weight, Grip, Tempo, etc. in order to challenge your body or....

2.You can use different exercises every time...but always record your max weights for that day so you never repeat the same exercise with the same weight.

Finally the important part is to keep progressing in the main compound exercise........For me this main exercise is the core of the whole concept....it will make you gain strength and size however on the other side the body gets used to it pretty fast....and this is where the auxiliary exercises comes in to play....they will make sure to shock your muscles with new things every time!

Hope this helps bro

Take care

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Ok one last thing to that training idea...When i would train arms and calves, am I looking to stick with about 2-3 aux exercies or should I add 1 sets of something that is in the 6-10 rep range. Say todays is chest day and i am using that 5*5 program and im going to use 225 for 5 for the first set. Am I going to use that same weight for the next 4 times???Im sorry for making it sound all confusing. I am just trying to learn..Thanks bro

No problem bro!!

Concerning to the first question...you can train arms and calves with your chest, back or legs at the end of your workout (maybe 2 exe x 3 sets ).......i don’t usually use the 5x5 program with small muscles because I don’t think is necessary....i like to focus in increasing just my main lifts.....i believe that if you have a 300lbs bech and 300 lbs barbell row.....your arms will be pretty strong to handle that weight.....what I am trying to say is that your arms will get stronger and bigger as a result of the heavy benching and rowing. What I do after i finish my chest workout is I include 2-3 exercises for tris and I use regular progression just to finish my workout......However if your arms and calves are week points I would recommend an specialization program...and that’s a whole new story.

On the other hand I would not recommend to use the same weight in all 5 sets......because after a few months when you bench is up (lets say 275 lbs) will be very dangerous to jump up and start doing them from the beginning of your workout.....you need to warm up your muscles and tendons first.....so increase your weight gradually until you reach your target weight. Also you will feel easy the first few sets but its normal just focus on feeling and contract the muscles........what really matter is to be consistent workout after workout.

Also every other week you have to de-load....basically you don’t maintain or increase your weights....you just go back to your previous weight....this is to make sure your body have the time to adapt to the new loads.....if you try to add weight every single week you will be looking for problems!!

See below this example: Lets say you have a max incline bench of 275.

[ZachNasty]

Are all compound 5*5 lifts done with full range of motion and total muscle contraction....?

[ZachNasty]

Thanks for all the help

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Are all compound 5*5 lifts done with full range of motion and total muscle contraction....?

yes!!!

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Thanks for all the help

No problem!!! Any time bro!! and good luck

[ZachNasty]

Hey bro, I have just seemd to fall in love with all the information you have given me man....You my as well start charging me for it...hahaha...I wanted to ask you something about supplementation. I have learned so much about what the body needs and doesnt need, and i think i have came to sort of a final copy of what supplements i think i need...Just let me know what you think.

Prolab pure creatine monhydrate.
Glucosamine and MSM
Disecctaed Liver Tablets
Whey and Casein


Thats it man....I dont think I need a multivitamin. Ill get eveything I need from natural foods. Thanks man

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Hey bro, I have just seemd to fall in love with all the information you have given me man....You my as well start charging me for it...hahaha...I wanted to ask you something about supplementation. I have learned so much about what the body needs and doesnt need, and i think i have came to sort of a final copy of what supplements i think i need...Just let me know what you think.

Prolab pure creatine monhydrate.
Glucosamine and MSM
Disecctaed Liver Tablets
Whey and Casein


Thats it man....I dont think I need a multivitamin. Ill get eveything I need from natural foods. Thanks man

Hey bro!! I am glad that the information is helping you!!! Concerning to your question I would only add some BCAA. I strongly believe in them...however the problem that I see is that everybody takes very low doses....it is a little expensive to take the right amounts but It is worth the money. Probably you would say that you take enough protein with a lot of aminos....but how do you know if you are getting the right ones...the ones that the body really needs (leucine, valine and isoleucine) you never know for sure (different protein sources different aminos)......Also the timing it is essential......you need them before, during and after your workout. If you eat protein after your workout it will take your body like 1 hour to digest and break the protein in aminos and absorbed them into the bloodstream.....But if you take BCAA you will have your valuable aminos in your blood within 15 minutes....ready to fix and repair!!! That’s what I do.......take BCAA during workout and at night when I wake up to go to the restroom!! And I feel it help me to recover faster.

I hope this helps

Take care

Francisco

[ZachNasty]

Whoops I forgot to add that....Well i take Amino Fuel during and after my workouts, but your saying that those 3 amino acids are the best so I should maybe take them before and after and drink amino fuel during???Something liek that haha

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Whoops I forgot to add that....Well i take Amino Fuel during and after my workouts, but your saying that those 3 amino acids are the best so I should maybe take them before and after and drink amino fuel during???Something liek that haha

What I do is to take amino-fuel (4pills) 15 minutes before my workout them I put Xtend (BCAAs – 15-20g) in my water and drink it during my workout.....then when I finish I take Aminofuel again (4 more pills)....while driving home.....this is my personal protocol...and feel that works for me!! .....the logic behind my protocol is.....first to flood my bloodstream with a lot of aminos during the most catabolic time (during the workout) and second to take advantage of the increased blood flow to the muscles that delivers all the nutrients......Well that’s the way I think...however I may be wrong LOL!

[ZachNasty]

So you diffently say that the Xtend is worth the 50 bucks for the Amino's? I guess you can only try trial and error. But before I picked it up i wanted just to ask you if its worth it. Ill still stick to taking my Amino fuel before and after, but I might try the Xtend.

[ZachNasty]

Originally Posted by fmoncas

What I do is to take amino-fuel (4pills) 15 minutes before my workout them I put Xtend (BCAAs – 15-20g) in my water and drink it during my workout.....then when I finish I take Aminofuel again (4 more pills)....while driving home.....this is my personal protocol...and feel that works for me!! .....the logic behind my protocol is.....first to flood my bloodstream with a lot of aminos during the most catabolic time (during the workout) and second to take advantage of the increased blood flow to the muscles that delivers all the nutrients......Well that’s the way I think...however I may be wrong LOL!

Or would like a cheaper brand be as good if i can just find those 3 key amino acids in it and have a good bit of grams in each serving....IDK i just want to find a solid plan. I dont want to go back and forth with all of these new supplements all the time. I just want to find that solid base and stick with it. If you could maybe throw at me something that would sound good i will really appreciate it.

I just need a solid BCAA supplement other then the liquid Amino Fuel. Like i said before i will take that pre and post. I take both Whey and Casein. I take Prolabs Creatine Mono. I think that would be the best way to go. What you think man???? Take Care

Good Luck With The Offseason
Zach

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Or would like a cheaper brand be as good if i can just find those 3 key amino acids in it and have a good bit of grams in each serving....IDK i just want to find a solid plan. I dont want to go back and forth with all of these new supplements all the time. I just want to find that solid base and stick with it. If you could maybe throw at me something that would sound good i will really appreciate it.

I just need a solid BCAA supplement other then the liquid Amino Fuel. Like i said before i will take that pre and post. I take both Whey and Casein. I take Prolabs Creatine Mono. I think that would be the best way to go. What you think man???? Take Care

Good Luck With The Offseason
Zach

Zach your protocol is pretty good....just stick with it!!!. On the other hand I just recommended Xtend because its what I have used.....i can not recommend something that i have never tried...Also go to Bodybuilding.com and search for BCAA....they have a lot of products....pick up the one that suits your needs.

However I just want to say that taking aminos and then BCAA is my personal protocol....its not a must!! You may have good results by taking just amino fuel during the workout.

Take care

[ZachNasty]

Hey Francisco, Whats you thoughts on all of these testoserone booster products, prohormone products, and some others. DO you still feel that these are natural to the body or would be considered a naturally bbuilder if you take these?

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Hey Francisco, Whats you thoughts on all of these testoserone booster products, prohormone products, and some others. DO you still feel that these are natural to the body or would be considered a naturally bbuilder if you take these?

Hey zach..in my opinion if you take a tribulus based product or something else that raises your testosterone level naturally based on an extracted substance that comes from a plat or seed you can still consider your self has a natural athlete.....however with prohormones the story is different........A few weeks ago my favorite writer (Coach Thibadeau) answers a question similar to yours...please reads below I agree with him 100%

“Biochemically speaking pro-hormones and pro-steroids *are* steroids. Just take androstenedione (the first of the pro-hormones) every endocrinology and physiology textbook classify it as a sex steroid like testosterone. It is (obviously) not as effective as testosterone but biochemically speaking it is still a steroid".

"Other more recent pro-hormones are now called pro-steroids because they are basically slightly modified versions of existing synthetic anabolic steroids. For example the "famous" halodrol (which has been pull off of the market) was basically a turinabol with a very slight chemical modification that allowed them to sell it (before the autjorities caught on). But it IS a steroid, it'sd just not one of the few "pharmaceutically recognized" steroid".

"Back in the 60s there was a lot of research on synthetic anabolic steroids. This was because the benefits of testosterone in several instances (to prevent muscle wasting for example) was well know, but so where its androgenic side effets."

"In the 60s they began to attempt to produce synthetic steroids devoid of androgenic properties and that had less side effects than testosterone. They never really accomplished that objective. They did produce synthetic steroids that were less androgenic, but not completely devoid of this characteristic."

"The result was that years of research and attempts at creating a non-androgenic steroid left literally hundreds of synthetic steroids created. Since the legit market for this type of product is fairly small they decided to keep only a few of the developped chemicals (those that were the most effective and/or had the least amount of side effects)."

"The other products stopped being developped and fell into oblivion. HOWEVER the original research (including the biochemical formula) about these disregarded products subsist to this day and some supplement companies paid chemists to fabric these disregarded steroids so that they could be sold as supplements."

"Since these products were never registered as anabolic-androgenic steroids it took a while before the authorities caught on."

So most pro-hormones/pro-steroids are either:

1. An actual steroid found in the human body (androstenedione, even norandrostenedione to some extent)

2. A slight chemical variation of "1." (e.g. androstenediol)

3. A disregarded steroid (it was probably disregarded either because it wasn't as safe or effective as the steroids that were kept and developped)

So anybody who say that he is natural but takes pro-hormones/pro-steroids is misguided.

The thing is that peoples claim a natural status if:

a) The supplements they take are legal (pro-hormones and pro-steroids were once legal... before the authorities caught on)

b) The supplements they take are not tested by a competition drug test (non IOC-approved drug tests often test for only a small number of substances to cut the cost, and pro-hormones are usually tolerated)

So while these athletes who take pro-hormones might not (at least at the time) break the law or take a "banned" substance, they are still using products that are actual steroids. Steroids that are not very effective, but steroids nonetheless.

That's why I made the distinction between "natural" and "tested". Just because you can pass a drug test (either because the drugs are out of your system or if the drugs you take on not on the banned list) doesn't qualify you as a real natural.

i hope this helps

[ZachNasty]

Hey thanks for that information Francisco. I wanted to tell you something that I have been experimenting with for the last month or so. I began with a weight around 215 and 15 percent bodyfat. I began to make chicken and salmon my main protein meal sources with of course good unsaturated fat carbs. These carbs I had were good carbs as in sweet potatos, broccili, wheat bread, and low fat yogurt. I also just drank water all day long for about a gallon a day and the only times I spiked my insulin were morining and after training.I just recoreded today my waist line and weight and bodyfat it I was just totally amazed. I started with a waist around 38" and dropped from about a month and a half ago 5"'s!!!! I am now 33" waist with a weight of 202 and bodyfat at 11-12%. This was something I wanted to try to do because i wanted to actually see how long it would take me to lose bodyfat before I began to think about competing. So that moment is now over and I want to compete next MAY. I am saying that I stick with my good carbs and spike insulin at those 2 times of the day and start eating lots of red meat. I am going to try to eat red meat 2 meals out of each day. I will still intake chicken and salmon but maybe only for 2 days. I want to see if increaing my good carbs and fats and eating lots of red meat will increase my wieghtr and size. I am going to begin tommorow and try to reach 225-230 and keep the bodyfat around 13-14% So know I know that I have a good eating regime knowing that when i need to drop bodyfat i can do it that way. I know everybody is totally different, but that worked for me. Whats amazing is people ask me if im on roids or something and the only thing Im doing is just eating right....It makes me feel great.....What are your thoughts on this????

Take care

Zach

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Hey thanks for that information Francisco. I wanted to tell you something that I have been experimenting with for the last month or so. I began with a weight around 215 and 15 percent bodyfat. I began to make chicken and salmon my main protein meal sources with of course good unsaturated fat carbs. These carbs I had were good carbs as in sweet potatos, broccili, wheat bread, and low fat yogurt. I also just drank water all day long for about a gallon a day and the only times I spiked my insulin were morining and after training.I just recoreded today my waist line and weight and bodyfat it I was just totally amazed. I started with a waist around 38" and dropped from about a month and a half ago 5"'s!!!! I am now 33" waist with a weight of 202 and bodyfat at 11-12%. This was something I wanted to try to do because i wanted to actually see how long it would take me to lose bodyfat before I began to think about competing. So that moment is now over and I want to compete next MAY. I am saying that I stick with my good carbs and spike insulin at those 2 times of the day and start eating lots of red meat. I am going to try to eat red meat 2 meals out of each day. I will still intake chicken and salmon but maybe only for 2 days. I want to see if increaing my good carbs and fats and eating lots of red meat will increase my wieghtr and size. I am going to begin tommorow and try to reach 225-230 and keep the bodyfat around 13-14% So know I know that I have a good eating regime knowing that when i need to drop bodyfat i can do it that way. I know everybody is totally different, but that worked for me. Whats amazing is people ask me if im on roids or something and the only thing Im doing is just eating right....It makes me feel great.....What are your thoughts on this????

Take care

Zach

That’s sound pretty good bro!! Just keep working our hard.....you are young and your body is producing a lot of test now...so take advantage of this and eat right and train hard and you will keep growing. My only advice is not to get too fat while bulking if you are going to compete. The more fat you carry the more time you will have to stay on diet....risking your muscle mass in the process. When you trying to get very very lean the body tends to burn muscle intead of fat...especially during the last few weeks.

[ZachNasty]

Thanks once again for your great insight....Hey one thing, when i take my creatine mono i was going to load for 1 week with 20 grams a day, then for 4 weeks just use 2.5 pre and 2.5 post? What you think?

Zach

[ZachNasty]

This is going to be my first time ever taking pure creatine mono. I have always took the hyped supplements as in Superpump, Size On, Expand..

[ZachNasty]

Hey Francisco I wanted to also ask you one more thing.

Knowing that I am 6'5, I only weigh 202. For some reason I feel that I should be at around 220 and look the way I do no, good sirations and seperation. So I wanted to post you my very up to date eating program and I wanted to see what you think. It dont matter, but any insight on this would really help me man. I am at home on the weekends instead of going out trying to learn how to do things RIGHT. The most important thing I have learned in my sort career in natural bodybuilding is Nutrient Timinig.

Breakfast- 1 scoop of whey mixed in 1 cup of fat free milk, 1 cup of orange juice, and 1 cup of oatmeal.

1 whole egg mixed with 2 egg whites.

Also sometimes whole wheat and high fiber pancakes

Lunch - 2 slices of whole grain or wheat bread with American Cheese and Lean Turkey.

6 oz of fat free yogurt

Fruit

1 hour Pre-Workout- Apple, 6 oz yogurt, and 1 scoop of whey

Post workout 2 scoops of whey mixed with 3 tablespoons of gatorade and 2.5 grams of creatine and 1 teaspoon of glutamine and my amino fuel

Dinner Chicken or Salmon with a yam and fresh vegetables

Bedtime Meal 1 scoop of casein with 2 tablespoons of natural peanut butter.

Snacks that I have are cottage cheese, low fat popcorn, and fruit fruti fruit.



Well this is what I have used for the last month or so and lost 7-10 pounds and lost all those inches of my waist. I just feel that I am to low in weight. How would i gain some of this back in lean muscle tho. Is increasments of red meat like I said yesterday good?

Also if you have any thoughts on that daily meals throw it at me so I can learn......Take care bro and thnkas for all your help and support.

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Thanks once again for your great insight....Hey one thing, when i take my creatine mono i was going to load for 1 week with 20 grams a day, then for 4 weeks just use 2.5 pre and 2.5 post? What you think?

Zach

Loading is no really necessary....if you want to load the muscles quickly and gain some extra weight (water) in the first week then you load...but in my opinion is just a waste because if you take 5 grams every day in a few weeks you will have the same weight gain and results. I personally never load on creatine.....but its up to you how you want to do it......this is not a rule set in stone. Good luck

[fmoncas]

Originally Posted by ZachNasty

Hey Francisco I wanted to also ask you one more thing.

Knowing that I am 6'5, I only weigh 202. For some reason I feel that I should be at around 220 and look the way I do no, good sirations and seperation. So I wanted to post you my very up to date eating program and I wanted to see what you think. It dont matter, but any insight on this would really help me man. I am at home on the weekends instead of going out trying to learn how to do things RIGHT. The most important thing I have learned in my sort career in natural bodybuilding is Nutrient Timinig.

Breakfast- 1 scoop of whey mixed in 1 cup of fat free milk, 1 cup of orange juice, and 1 cup of oatmeal.

1 whole egg mixed with 2 egg whites.

Also sometimes whole wheat and high fiber pancakes

Lunch - 2 slices of whole grain or wheat bread with American Cheese and Lean Turkey.

6 oz of fat free yogurt

Fruit

1 hour Pre-Workout- Apple, 6 oz yogurt, and 1 scoop of whey

Post workout 2 scoops of whey mixed with 3 tablespoons of gatorade and 2.5 grams of creatine and 1 teaspoon of glutamine and my amino fuel

Dinner Chicken or Salmon with a yam and fresh vegetables

Bedtime Meal 1 scoop of casein with 2 tablespoons of natural peanut butter.

Snacks that I have are cottage cheese, low fat popcorn, and fruit fruti fruit.



Well this is what I have used for the last month or so and lost 7-10 pounds and lost all those inches of my waist. I just feel that I am to low in weight. How would i gain some of this back in lean muscle tho. Is increasments of red meat like I said yesterday good?

Also if you have any thoughts on that daily meals throw it at me so I can learn......Take care bro and thnkas for all your help and support.

Zack is you want to gain weight you just have to remember one simple rule..............Calories in Vs Calories out!!! You probably know this but I don’t know if you are applying it to your nutrition. If you want to get big and strong you have to be organized and keep a detailed diet with all the calories, proteins, fats etc that you are consuming.....this diet will be your master plan...and your starting point. From that starting diet you will have to modify and adjust your calories and macros according to your results. For example....i started my diet at 3700 calories and I have been recording my weight increments since the first week.....but if I see that I am not gaining more weight I simply add more calories....and if I am gaining to fast I deduct some calories. It is simple but it takes some time and dedication and this is where most people fail when trying to gain mass.

Red meat is good but as I mentioned before all get summarized in the rule.....you can eat all the red meat you want but if you are eating 2000 calories and you are burning 3000...you are not going anywhere. I have posted some of my diets in this thread.....thats what work for me and you may want to check it out.

Hope this helps

[fmoncas]

Hey guys.....i got invited by the Local Bodybuilding Federation to go compete in an international event in a country called Belize!! I was really exited because it’s an honor to go and compete with the best guys in Central America....however I may turn-down the proposition!!!! Supposedly the winners from the competition that I competed last month were qualified to go to this event in Belize...but they (federation rep) told me just yesterday.......17 day before the comp!!!!! And I say no way.......even thought I am still I very good shape I have been bulking up for more than 2 weeks now and I don’t think that I will have the time to get in contest shape!!!! It is very sad but I think that this is the right choice!!! Those guys are chemically enhanced athletes and I don’t want to embarrass my self in front of them.....yesterday some of the guys that are going to compete went to my gym to train.....and they are sliced....veins everywhere!!! In my case I a not close to that condition!!

What you guys think

[cmart315]

I think you know you, and you know what you are doing. So if you think going in there with not enough time to prepare is a bad idea, then don't do it. But the decision is yours. How has the bulk been treating you so far in the past couple weeks??

[YM123]

this log is great. i hope mine can develop into something as detailed as this in the near future. keep up the hard work and good luck in your next comp