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Old 09-23-2008, 02:53 AM   #31
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i do it all.... i have been doing this lately tho... 3x10 and then 5x5 right after with same excercise...works well... i always enjoyed the german volume, havent done it lately though...however for squats im doing 5 sets of 20 reps
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:47 AM   #32
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I usually alternate between 2 weeks heavy and 3 weeks high volume.
 
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:26 PM   #33
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Volume is only one training variable, at the end of the day it can be done wrongly and it can be done well.

Generally speaking, the more you increase the volume, the more you should decrease the intensity of each set. Going 20 sets of 10 reps with every set to failure is a bad idea for a natural, at least week after week,

Its' really dependent on your genetics, calorie intake, sleeping patterns and time available for training.

I don't know of a study that proves hypertrophy is better with more volume without there being a change in the amount of weight a person can lift.

For example,

Your current 5RM is 100kg on the squat and 10RM is 90kg

Option A: Follow a German volume program 10x10 for 3 months, your 5RM tested at the end is 110kg and 10RM is 100kg

Option B: Follow a periodised/cycle program of one work set of 5 reps for 3 months, your 5RM tested at the end is 110kg and 10RM is 100kg

Overall, both options should yield roughly the same gain of LBM for the same person.
 
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:28 PM   #34
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Volume is only one training variable, at the end of the day it can be done wrongly and it can be done well.

Generally speaking, the more you increase the volume, the more you should decrease the intensity of each set. Going 20 sets of 10 reps with every set to failure is a bad idea for a natural, at least week after week,

Its' really dependent on your genetics, calorie intake, sleeping patterns and time available for training.

I don't know of a study that proves hypertrophy is better with more volume without there being a change in the amount of weight a person can lift.

For example,

Your current 5RM is 100kg on the squat and 10RM is 90kg

Option A: Follow a German volume program 10x10 for 3 months, your 5RM tested at the end is 110kg and 10RM is 100kg

Option B: Follow a periodised/cycle program of one work set of 5 reps for 3 months, your 5RM tested at the end is 110kg and 10RM is 100kg

Overall, both options should yield roughly the same gain of LBM for the same person.
wow thanx, that helps clarify alot on what ive been trying and researching :)
 
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:58 PM   #35
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yeah hvt has worked best for me as well. The only other thing I've tried though is a 5x5 program and as soon as I went back to doing sets of 10-15, my strength and size went up all around.
The way I have it set up now, is most weeks I will do bodyparts once per week, but every few weeks, throw in a 2x a week to shake up my system. I'm going to be testing that over the next few months.
 
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