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Old 08-16-2006, 10:14 AM   #1
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As natrual athletes do you approach you training and rest differently than a non natural athlete, or has supplementation bridged the recovery gap?
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:27 AM   #2
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I workout everything with more volume & frequency than most IFBB pros i'll bet. Never had a problem. Overtraining = boogeyman. the exception is for people who are older
 
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:13 PM   #3
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Does the lack of Anabolics make it even more necessary to hit the muscle with more voulme? Rather than relying on just heavy 5 rep sets for mass.
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Old 08-16-2006, 03:36 PM   #4
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I workout everything with more volume & frequency than most IFBB pros i'll bet. Never had a problem. Overtraining = boogeyman. the exception is for people who are older
meaning you dont belive in overtraining?
 
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:23 PM   #5
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Does the lack of Anabolics make it even more necessary to hit the muscle with more voulme? Rather than relying on just heavy 5 rep sets for mass.
Yup, most people have it backwards... steroids allow you to train LESS frequently & still keep levels of protein synthesis elevated... as a natural trainee synthesis drops much faster post workout
 
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:23 PM   #6
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meaning you dont belive in overtraining?
no i do. I just think 99.99999% of people who think they are overtraining... really aren't.

trust me... if you were overtrained, you would KNOW it
 
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Old 08-16-2006, 07:59 PM   #7
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no i do. I just think 99.99999% of people who think they are overtraining... really aren't.

trust me... if you were overtrained, you would KNOW it

i gotcha.. your sayin alot of people mistake overtraining for fatigue... i just took a week off training b/c i felt i was overtrained. i was tired as hell all the time and i had NO appetite at all.. i was basically forcing myself to eat. and t hen i felt like puking before and after all my meals, esp in the morning. after about the 4th or 5th day of rest i started getting my appetite back and now im back to eating like a beast... sound like i was overtrained to you?
 
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:55 PM   #8
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at your age i really doubt it
 
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:44 AM   #9
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Sounds like u over trained to me!
 
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:58 AM   #10
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so what does overtraining feel like? have u ever overtrained Str8flexed?
 
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:37 AM   #11
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Sounds like u over trained to me!

sure felt like it bro
 
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:36 AM   #12
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Sometimes even if you are not physically over training your body, it's possible to just simply need some time away from the gym. Every now and then I just need to take it easy, just relax on the couch and unwind from the gym.

For me anyway.
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:24 PM   #13
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Sometimes even if you are not physically over training your body, it's possible to just simply need some time away from the gym. Every now and then I just need to take it easy, just relax on the couch and unwind from the gym.

For me anyway.

haha, i feel that man... which reminds me, one of my buddies is a powerlifter and he always preaches that even though your muscles may be rested that you can still overwork your Central Nervous System
 
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