beating the system

ryanmalone43 · 07-28-2006, 06:05 PM

I know diff federations have diff rules as to what is "natural"... correct me if im wrong, but I think that Insulin, GH, and IGF are not allowed in any natural federations, however there is no testing for any of those three. That being said, are there alot of natural pros who use these products to give them an edge over the competition?

**Jayhawkk** · 07-28-2006, 06:10 PM

If there's no testing then I would assume you would have to just guess unless they were to come out and say it and i'm betting they wouldn't.

**str8flexed** · 07-28-2006, 06:40 PM

that's why they do polygraph since urine can't detect these

ryanmalone43 · 07-28-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by str8flexed

that's why they do polygraph since urine can't detect these

Ok, i wasnt aware they polygraph tested too. guess that pretty much filters out everything the urine test doesnt.

**str8flexed** · 07-28-2006, 07:29 PM

well it's not fool proof but it's what we have right now

**Jayhawkk** · 07-28-2006, 08:12 PM

poly is pretty good unless they take certain barbituates unless they test for those in the urine samples.

**str8flexed** · 07-28-2006, 10:46 PM

poly is all relative to who is giving the test. if it's a good polygrapher, they can be very effective... same token if they aren't good then it's not too hard to pass them

YoungArnold08 · 07-29-2006, 02:49 AM

what about testorsterone (sp?) boosters? I know you can pretty much buy these anywhere from any company...altho I see some things on some organizations sheet that says no testosterone above a certain level or something like that. Also they say something about prescription thyroid medicine. What about non prescription?

**Jayhawkk** · 07-29-2006, 03:06 AM

Any thyroid meds you get that aren't prescription are just disguised versions of the script.

**str8flexed** · 07-29-2006, 03:06 AM

non prescription is fine... hence the reason they say 'prescription' :)

test boosters are fine... most of them don't do crap anyway

**Jayhawkk** · 07-29-2006, 05:06 AM

So let me get this straight...You can't take synthroid™ but you can take research T-3/t-4 etc? Makes so sense to me.

Oz_Rider · 07-29-2006, 06:25 AM

speaking of test boosters.. what do u think the tour de france guy was using????

oh and to the thread starter ryan... bro ur 18 and HUGE!!! have to ask the million dollar question bro.. ur in the natural section... are you truly a natural tho??

fog_hat1981 · 07-29-2006, 06:33 AM

Taking T3/T4 would be virtually pointless without the use of test or other anabolic compounds so that would be a null point IMO...