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Originally Posted by str8flexed what would you say about the legal steroids that can be bought over the counter... these are full blown steroids. would you say they are natural? |
Hey Layne, this rocks that you have your own sub-forum over here. I didn't know about it until just now and I immediately joined. I've lurked on this forum from time to time but now I'll be a regular.
So, on this topic... I do think someone can become a reborn natural by staying off the androgens for long enough to lose the drug-induced gains. I know it is debated, but I believe that the body cannot maintain unnatural gains for an extended period of time without continual use of exogenous hormones. Your genetics decide the maximal amount of muscle tissue your body can naturally support and this will eventually return to baseline upon cessastion of steriod use. Does the return to baseline take 5-7 years though? Obviously, the time it takes to become a truly reborn natural would depend on what steroids you've taken, how much, and for how long. If someone is carrying 50 lbs of drug-induced mass, they'll obviously catabolize the tissue more slowly than someone only carrying 5 lbs.
For me, this is a personal issue because I made a decision, which I now regret, to run a standalone cycle of prostanazol back in the early months of this year, just after the compound was added to WADA's banned list. Now, prostanazol is the mildest of the mild OTC steroids, many people would say a complete waste of time to run solo. I did it because I wanted to test the waters before doing anything more 'hardcore' and I was never planning on competing at the time. I had myself convinced that I was too old to reach my full potential without gear... too old at 32!!! Now, I realize I was guilty of impatience and of having a complete lack of faith in myself.
So I played with prostanazol and I accept the consequences... I cannot compete in tested shows for another 4.5 years, at least. I accept that. I knew what I was doing and the ramifications. Still, it is just a little frustrating that someone injecting 750 mg of test weekly and running cycles for years and years could have quit using gear the same day I finished my prostanazol cycle and therefore qualify to compete naturally on the same day as I. I don't even believe I retained any of the extremely modest gains I got while on prostanazol... even stanazol (winstrol) is not known for building a lot of mass, it is primarily used during cutting, and prostanazol is a much less bioavailable derivative of stanazol. Honestly, I had better gains from running Designer Supplements
NHA stack.
While it is frustrating, I accept that orgs are not going to draw fine lines, but rather use broad strokes to keep the playing field as level as possible. Like I said, I knew what I was doing so crying about it ain't going to do me any good. I'm only 32... well, almost 33 and I will use the next 5 years to hone my physique to a level where I can immediately be a serious competitor when I do hit the natural scene. I will probably do a couple of musclemania or NPC shows in 3-4 years to gain some contest experience. That's my story... I lost the right to say I am a lifetime natural, but I am dedicated to natty training from here on out.
Damn, my first post on this board and I wrote a friggin' three volume autobiography. I hope I wasn't too verbose. I type fast...