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Old 11-18-2005, 11:22 PM   #61
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like i said, if there is a god, then i hate him. Assuming there is a god, and he's soooooooooo great, then why the hell did he drown new orleans? why did he kill over 100,000 ppl in the tsumani, where the children in 911 just colateral damage for the ppl in there who had sined? why would God do all this horrible shit to ppl, why do several of my friends, who are great guys, live in trailer parks? get hit by there parents? shit like that makes no sense. That is why my faith in god is dead, there is no god, and as far as im concerned there never will be
this might sound crazy, but here it goes.

i feel that god really doesnt have much to do w/ things like that. when you think about it, there are two influences you can have on earth, Jesus or Satan. They are both nothing but influences and its up to you to decide which one to follow. For example, the Taliban (spell check) flew planes into the twin towers. Their influence was not Jesus, it was Satan. I feel that your time on earth is a test, a test to see which power will influence you. I believe in God and I believe in Satan. They both have influences on earth, and some people chose the right path, and some the wrong. You know, one time i was talking with my friend, about the song by Slipknot - "Heretic Anthem". if you have heard this song, the chorus goes "if you're 555, then i'm 666". if you know slipknot, this just their way of saying they are different. but i got to thinking, the number for man is 555, the number for Satan is 666, and the number for God is 777. Therefore man is lowest on the list. Due to the fact that man is so easily influenced by evil....cheating, stealing, revenge, killing, etc. When it comes down to a fued, the first thing people turn to is violence or revenge. they dont turn to forgiveness or forgetting about what happened. this is where these two influences come in.

for example, with your friends. their parents are influenced more by Satan than anything else. when they are angry, then dont forgive or talk about it, they resort to violence. just like today with all the teasing that goes on and school shootings. you have kids that make fun of others, to the point where its just more than your "average teasing". today people are to the point where they do not care about others, ignorance is something i see more and more of everyday. i do understand why you feel there is no God. but like i said, you have two roads to chose, God or Satan...and the time you have on Earth is your test.
 
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:25 AM   #62
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...and latin ppl ....that fuc......assh@le..... :(261):
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Old 11-19-2005, 05:21 AM   #63
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this might sound crazy, but here it goes.

i feel that god really doesnt have much to do w/ things like that. when you think about it, there are two influences you can have on earth, Jesus or Satan. They are both nothing but influences and its up to you to decide which one to follow. For example, the Taliban (spell check) flew planes into the twin towers. Their influence was not Jesus, it was Satan. I feel that your time on earth is a test, a test to see which power will influence you. I believe in God and I believe in Satan. They both have influences on earth, and some people chose the right path, and some the wrong. You know, one time i was talking with my friend, about the song by Slipknot - "Heretic Anthem". if you have heard this song, the chorus goes "if you're 555, then i'm 666". if you know slipknot, this just their way of saying they are different. but i got to thinking, the number for man is 555, the number for Satan is 666, and the number for God is 777. Therefore man is lowest on the list. Due to the fact that man is so easily influenced by evil....cheating, stealing, revenge, killing, etc. When it comes down to a fued, the first thing people turn to is violence or revenge. they dont turn to forgiveness or forgetting about what happened. this is where these two influences come in.

for example, with your friends. their parents are influenced more by Satan than anything else. when they are angry, then dont forgive or talk about it, they resort to violence. just like today with all the teasing that goes on and school shootings. you have kids that make fun of others, to the point where its just more than your "average teasing". today people are to the point where they do not care about others, ignorance is something i see more and more of everyday. i do understand why you feel there is no God. but like i said, you have two roads to chose, God or Satan...and the time you have on Earth is your test.
Diesel, props to you big man.. you said it so perfectly I have nothing else to add to this.. your eyes are definetely open... but one thing I can add is about the natural disasters...Does God have control over these? sure he does.. does he let them happen? sure he does.. why you ask? the reasoning is beyond human understaing but God knows why.. New Orleans was one of the dirtiest and sinnful places on earth.. Now you ask, I thought God is forgiving? of course he is, but hes both a Lion and a Lamb.. u must not forget there is only black and white with God.. the grey area is the human area.. God knows his reasoning for these things.. he has a much better understanding why these things come to past. he knows that he has a home waiting for these sick people in africa and these poor kids that died do to disasters.. but these and other questsions will only be answered in due time.. I feel that many things happen around the world do to personal choice.. but God also lets them happen, maybe to test our character? what will we do? just sit back and watch.. or give a helping hand.. like Diesel said.. this is school, we just need to realise who the teacher in our lives is..
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Old 11-19-2005, 08:02 PM   #64
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yeah lameculo ..i hate those motherfuckerssssss
 
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this might sound crazy, but here it goes.

i feel that god really doesnt have much to do w/ things like that. when you think about it, there are two influences you can have on earth, Jesus or Satan. They are both nothing but influences and its up to you to decide which one to follow. For example, the Taliban (spell check) flew planes into the twin towers. Their influence was not Jesus, it was Satan. I feel that your time on earth is a test, a test to see which power will influence you. I believe in God and I believe in Satan. They both have influences on earth, and some people chose the right path, and some the wrong. You know, one time i was talking with my friend, about the song by Slipknot - "Heretic Anthem". if you have heard this song, the chorus goes "if you're 555, then i'm 666". if you know slipknot, this just their way of saying they are different. but i got to thinking, the number for man is 555, the number for Satan is 666, and the number for God is 777. Therefore man is lowest on the list. Due to the fact that man is so easily influenced by evil....cheating, stealing, revenge, killing, etc. When it comes down to a fued, the first thing people turn to is violence or revenge. they dont turn to forgiveness or forgetting about what happened. this is where these two influences come in.

for example, with your friends. their parents are influenced more by Satan than anything else. when they are angry, then dont forgive or talk about it, they resort to violence. just like today with all the teasing that goes on and school shootings. you have kids that make fun of others, to the point where its just more than your "average teasing". today people are to the point where they do not care about others, ignorance is something i see more and more of everyday. i do understand why you feel there is no God. but like i said, you have two roads to chose, God or Satan...and the time you have on Earth is your test.

that's right........diesel great post
 
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Old 11-20-2005, 04:16 AM   #66
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I just read some of the new post. thats some strong stuff. Its just great to hear people sharing with others about GOD like you said there will always be some that don't believe but its the right thing to share it with others I pray that my faith will be as strong as yours
 
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I'm a Catholic but I can't seem to find anything in the Bible about the T-Rex, my favorite dinosaur.

 
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I'm a Catholic but I can't seem to find anything in the Bible about the T-Rex, my favorite dinosaur.
dinosaurs didn't exist. the devil put fake bones in the ground to try to confuse people, and test their faith.

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Old 11-21-2005, 05:12 AM   #69
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serbmarko your very brave. What I have learn't in life is that you really should never discuss religon or politics. It does not matter what you believe it will always insult sombody because there beliefs will not align with yours. If you post a thread such as this expect to cop sum flack
 
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serbmarko your very brave. What I have learn't in life is that you really should never discuss religon or politics. It does not matter what you believe it will always insult sombody because there beliefs will not align with yours. If you post a thread such as this expect to cop sum flack

thats really the last thing that bothers me.. Jesus was hated by so many... and I know that I myself am not being bashed but its the one who I believe in.. if people disagree with me or dont believe what I believe.. I totally appreciate that.. I myself have only been a believer for just over a year.. and I know how real and loving God has been for me.. even if one person benefits from this.. im happy.. there are so many people in this world confused and searching for their purpose just as I was.. and in God i found all these answers.. like i said.. being bashed because of my belief.. is the last thing I worry about..
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In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don't.

Being a Christian is like being a pumpkin. God lifts you up, takes you in, and washes all the dirt off of you. He opens you up, touches you deep inside and scoops out all the yucky stuff, including the seeds of doubt, hate, greed, etc. Then He carves you a new smiling face and puts His light inside you to shine for all the world to see.
 
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:27 AM   #71
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Then what about the dinosaurs? In light of what we read in Genesis, what is the real sequence of events regarding these creatures? If God created dinosaurs, why aren't they mentioned in the Bible? Was man on earth at the same time as the dinosaurs?

Many people don't realize that paleontology (the study of past geological ages based primarily on the study of fossils) is a relatively new science. In fact, the concept of "dinosaurs" only surfaced in its present form less than 180 years ago. Prior to that, anyone who found a large fossilized bone assumed it came from an elephant, dragon or giant. It wasn't until 1841 that English scientist Richard Owens suggested that the group of "newly discovered" animals be called "dinosaurs" (meaning, "terrible lizards"). Therefore, we shouldn't expect to see dinosaurs in the Bible, but we should expect to see descriptions of "dragons" and other large creatures. In fact, we do!

A search for the word "dragon" in the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible produces 34 separate matches across 10 different books written between approximately 2000 BC and 90 AD. The word "dragon" ( Hebrew: tannin) is used throughout the Old Testament, and most directly translates as "sea or land monsters." Interestingly, Genesis 1:21 describes God's creation of sea dragons (tannin) on the 5th day. Today's Bible translations use the following terms instead: "great whales" (KJV), "the great creatures of the sea" (NIV), "the great sea monsters" (NASB), and "great sea creatures" (NLT, NKJV). However, the original Hebrew is more descriptive of the sea-going dinosaurs we now see in numerous museums throughout the world. Even more dramatic is the Book of Job, where the author describes the great land creature, Behemoth (Job 40), and the great water creature, Leviathan (Job 41). Although the latest Bible translations use the words elephant, hippo or crocodile instead of Behemoth and Leviathan, the original Hebrew and the context of the descriptions do not allow for these interpretations.

Descriptions of dinosaur-like creatures are nearly universal throughout the world's ancient cultures. Where did this global concept originate? How did societies throughout the world describe, record, draw, etch, sew and carve such creatures in such uniformity, if they did not witness these creatures during their lifetimes? Of course, these accounts are by no means limited to the Bible. Dragon accounts from China, Europe, the Middle East, and Latin America share similar accounts of dinosaur-like beasts. Records of Marco Polo in China show that the royal house kept dragons for ceremonies, and records of the Greek historian Herodotus and the Jewish historian Josephus describe flying reptiles in ancient Egypt and Arabia. In many cultures it was a great honor to kill these creatures. There are numerous records of warriors killing great beasts in order to establish credibility in a village. Gilgamesh, Fafnir, Beowulf and other famous legends, including the mythology of Egypt, Greece and Rome, provide specific descriptions of dragons and other dinosaur-like creatures.

Dinosaurs are depicted on numerous objects of ancient art throughout the world. Dinosaur-like creatures are featured on Babylonian landmarks, Roman mosaics, Asian pottery and royal robes, Egyptian burial shrouds and government seals, Peruvian burial stones and tapestries, Mayan sculptures, Aboriginal and Native American petroglyphs (carved rock drawings), and many other pieces of ceremonial art throughout ancient cultures. If dinosaurs supposedly went extinct at least 50 million years ago, how did ancient man of the last few thousand years precisely and uniformly depict them? The Bible is clear -- sea creatures were created by God on Day 5 and land creatures were created by God on Day 6. These creatures included dinosaurs, which co-existed with man until they died off for various reasons, including most dramatically, the worldwide flood of Noah
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