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Old 03-06-2006, 05:48 PM   #421
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uhhh what the heck you guys rambling about
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Old 03-06-2006, 05:56 PM   #422
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uhhh what the heck you guys rambling about
Rambling? We're discussing movies (see title)...?
 
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:04 PM   #423
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your last post i didnt understand anything you typed
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:24 PM   #424
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We're seriously discussing film here. If it's something that didn't make sense to you look at prior posts for reference to what I or someone else was saying. If it still doesn't make sense then maybe it's better to just read this thread instead of calling people's posts "ramblings"

...or, if there's something in particular you're curious about, just ask
 
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:50 PM   #425
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Hey Lineski, in the same vein as your Wachowski cartoon, after my friend and i saw Terminator 3 we did a comic together (he drew, i wrote) where a terminator is sent back in time to kill Jonathan Mostow before he could make it and fuck up the franchise. Because we have friends in high places we got it published in some student newspaper. :P

As for the Matirx, i wasn't even that big a fan of the first one. I actually much preferred Dark City, which came out at about the same time and deals with a similar idea. A much smaller film obviously, but very good.
 
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:47 PM   #426
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I watched the Oscars in spite of myself and Salma Hayek stole my heart (again). Keira Knightley gets an honourable mention.

Anyone notice Lauren Bacall was hopped up on goofballs when she introduced that film noir montage (which was cool)?
 
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Old 03-06-2006, 08:36 PM   #427
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LOL at the Terminator thing. Yeah, I was actually watching the Oscar's with my mom and younger sister who saw Salma Hyek and said "wow, why can't I have a body like that?" To which I replied "Because I said so!" LOL

I wac actually going to watch all the post interview stuff that the channel broadcasting the Oscars was hosting but they had, of all people Roger Ebert as one of their guests/commenators and I know for a fact he had Crash as his number one film of the year so I abruptly changed channels
 
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Jokes aside, Ebert is not actually that bad. He has some curious habits - he is very perverse, often championing manifestly shithouse films and slamming good ones. He does say something intelligent from time to time (for instance, i think his review of Fight Club hits the nail on the head).

The main thing is that there are many critics much better out there so why privilege him above the rest? Personally, i think Jonathan Rosenbaum is the best critic writing these days. Jim Hoberman follows closely on his heels. Of the old guard there is Sarris and Pauline Kael who are still worth a read.

I'll watch crash tonight and probably post my thoughts to vent.
 
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Old 03-06-2006, 08:55 PM   #429
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I'll watch crash tonight and probably post my thoughts to vent.
I'll talk more on critics later as I've got to head out, interesting thoughts though. Looking forward to your take on Crash.
 
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whens the simpsons movie coming out?
 
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whens the simpsons movie coming out?
From the latest thing I've read they were originally going to wait until the show ended but because people are still watching it, they now have seperate teams working on the movie and the show. Nancy Cartwright (the voice of Bart Simpson) said in an interview this past summer that it's now in the "pre-production" phase so it looks like it's actually going to happen, but not for awhile yet. My prediction: Summer '08
 
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Old 03-07-2006, 03:52 AM   #432
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Just watched Crash, and don't have all that much to say. Wasn't a bad film, but don't think it was all that great either. Most of all i think its message was a little too 'safe'. I think it was really only playing at being deep and insightful.

Other than that i felt it really pushed my credulity to the limit (in terms of the the many coincedences involved), and i think it came really close to melodrama at some points (the little girl being 'shot' - though this was a red herring, Don Cheadles' brother taking groceries to his mother as his last act). Incidentally, that was the main problem i had with Million Dollar Baby (in fact, that was down right mawkish and manipulative in parts).

Finally, something just didn't ring true about all those overtly racist characters being so aware of race relations and seemingly having nothing to talk about but race. It felt very artificial.

Performances were all decent but nothing stood out.

Personally i would have liked to have seen GN&GL win best pic but as i knew that wasn't going to happen i had reconciled myself to Brokeback winning. After seeing Crash, BM is easily superior.
 
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:43 AM   #433
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Just found this excellent article (how the hell did it get on the msnbc site?). Says everything i would say, only better.

From http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11700333/

Oscar misfire: ‘Crash’ and burn
The Academy takes yet another step toward irrelevance with its latest pick

COMMENTARY
By Erik Lundegaard
MSNBC contributor
Updated: 3:09 p.m. ET March 6, 2006

Talk about ruining a perfect evening.

Jon Stewart was funny, George Clooney was sharp, Salma Hayek looked to-freakin’-die-for, Philip Seymour Hoffman won in humble-but-lovable fashion and Ang Lee, the director of one of the best movies of the year, became the first non-Caucasian to win the Academy Award for best director.

Then Jack Nicholson, presenting the best picture winner, ruined everything. He didn’t say “Brokeback Mountain”; he actually said…“Crash.”

No, he didn’t. Did he? He did.

My god.

This is the worst best picture winner since “The Greatest Show on Earth” in 1952. It may be worse than that. “Greatest Show” was a dull, bloated romance set against the backdrop of a three-ring circus but at least it didn’t pretend to be important. “Crash” thinks it’s important. “Crash” thinks it’s saying something bold about racism in America.

But what is it saying?

That we all bear some form of racism. That we all “stereotype” other races. That, when pressured, racist sentiments spill out of us as easily as escaped air.

Here’s my take. Yes, we all bear some form of racism — that’s obvious. Yes, we all “stereotype” other races in some fashion — that’s obvious. (Particularly obvious in the Los Angeles of “Crash,” where so many characters are stereotypes.) But, no, we don’t easily give voice to our racist sentiments. And that’s why “Crash” rings so false.

Last month I wrote an article on the best picture nominees (called “Anything But ‘Crash’”) in which I talked about how the most potent form of racism in this country is no longer overt but covert. Once upon a time, yes yes yes, it was overt, which is another reason why “Crash” sucks. It’s doing what simple-minded generals do: It’s fighting the last war.

The “Crash” quiz
Here, let’s take a little quiz. Say you’re an Asian woman who has just rear-ended the car in front of you. What do you do? Do you…

1. Wait in your car until a police officer arrives
2. Exchange licenses with the driver of the other car
3. Notice that the driver of the other car is someone who looks like Jennifer Esposito, immediately assume she’s Mexican-American (as opposed to, say, Italian-American), and then tell the African-American police officer that “Mexicans no know how to drive.”

How about this one? You’re talking to a bureaucrat on the phone about getting extra care for your father who is having trouble urinating, and she is not helpful. You ask for her name and she tells you: Shaniqua Johnson. You still need her help. What do you say?

1. “Shaniqua. That’s a beautiful name.”
2. “Shaniqua. You could do a better job of helping my father, who is in pain.
3. “Shaniqua. Big f---ing surprise that is.”

One last one. You’ve just been told by your hot, hot girlfriend, with whom you’re lucky to be sleeping in the first place, that she is not Mexican as you presumed; that her mother is from Puerto Rico and her father is from El Salvador. What do you say?

1. “I’m sorry, honey. I’m surprised I didn’t know that. Now come back to bed.”
2. “Really? How did they meet?”
3. “Who took [all Latinos] and taught them to park their cars on their lawns?”

And on and on and on. Every scene. Put a little pressure on somebody and they blurt simplistic racist sentiments. Right in the face of someone of that race.

Worse, none of it feels like sentiments thes