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Old 06-29-2009, 09:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok why is it muslims got labelled and still do get labelled extremeists/barbarians for denouncing **** like this:

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Old 06-29-2009, 09:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i'm not sure what being muslim has to do with it, but all people should denounce animal brothels as no animal is able to give consent to sexual relations with a human.

Please try an avoid turning this into a muslims are great/terrible thread. This is not the place for it and I'd rather not see all the bs that surrounds these 'debates' end up here.
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i'm not sure what being muslim has to do with it, but all people should denounce animal brothels as no animal is able to give consent to sexual relations with a human.

Please try an avoid turning this into a muslims are great/terrible thread. This is not the place for it and I'd rather not see all the bs that surrounds these 'debates' end up here.
Naw dude you got it wrong, muslims protested against this stuff.. but after deep thought your post makes sense,

Ok religion aside,

What do you guys think about Animal Brothels, LIKE WTF
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i'm not sure what being muslim has to do with it, but all people should denounce animal brothels as no animal is able to give consent to sexual relations with a human.

Please try an avoid turning this into a muslims are great/terrible thread. This is not the place for it and I'd rather not see all the bs that surrounds these 'debates' end up here.
I hope that isnt the only reason you disagree with it, but yeah it turns out;

"that many of the animals have been engaged in this kind of activity for several years and that the animals crave the sexual stimulation..."


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Old 07-02-2009, 05:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I hope that isnt the only reason you disagree with it, but yeah it turns out;

"that many of the animals have been engaged in this kind of activity for several years and that the animals crave the sexual stimulation..."


well to begin let me say that the idea os intercourse with an animal disgusts me. However, from a striclty legak standpoint, in most cases we treat some animals as property and commodities and others as beings with rights. So there is an ethical morass to untangle if we are to be consistent with our application of rights to animals.

One could make the point that no animal consents to being killed for food either. However, since I enjoy eating meat, I'm not willing to accept that as a reason not to eat them. Given that, on what basis, other than it's reprehensibility to me, can I deny people having intercourse with animals? Clearly there are several practices which I disagree with, and other practices which have been universally denounced only to gain accpetance. On what then do we base our moral code? Simple majority can't work as all marginalized groups would be forever without any agency or rights. Consistency must be key if the moral code is to be at all meaningful.

I would argue that though an animal cannot consent to being eaten, the rights of the human population supercede it's rights based on the necessity of eating and it's overwhelming prevalence in the animal kingdom. Not the vegetarians will still say that because we can exist without eating an animal, we should, but I then would point to a biological imperative to eating meat as well as it's economy in certain climates/regions.

What then to do about the dirty animal ****ers? Well, one could argue that though an animals rights stop when they come up against the rights of humans, one should also point out that the only time humans should have dominion over said rights is that when contravening them is necessary for survival. With that in mind, no animal can consent to any abuse (sexual or otherwise). No human requires butt sex with a goat to live on even the most specious of arguments and therefore it's morally wrong as the animal cannot consent.

With regards to sexual practices, I feel that informed consent is key.

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well to begin let me say that the idea os intercourse with an animal disgusts me. However, from a striclty legak standpoint, in most cases we treat some animals as property and commodities and others as beings with rights. So there is an ethical morass to untangle if we are to be consistent with our application of rights to animals.

One could make the point that no animal consents to being killed for food either. However, since I enjoy eating meat, I'm not willing to accept that as a reason not to eat them. Given that, on what basis, other than it's reprehensibility to me, can I deny people having intercourse with animals? Clearly there are several practices which I disagree with, and other practices which have been universally denounced only to gain accpetance. On what then do we base our moral code? Simple majority can't work as all marginalized groups would be forever without any agency or rights. Consistency must be key if the moral code is to be at all meaningful.

I would argue that though an animal cannot consent to being eaten, the rights of the human population supercede it's rights based on the necessity of eating and it's overwhelming prevalence in the animal kingdom. Not the vegetarians will still say that because we can exist without eating an animal, we should, but I then would point to a biological imperative to eating meat as well as it's economy in certain climates/regions.

What then to do about the dirty animal ****ers? Well, one could argue that though an animals rights stop when they come up against the rights of humans, one should also point out that the only time humans should have dominion over said rights is that when contravening them is necessary for survival. With that in mind, no animal can consent to any abuse (sexual or otherwise). No human requires butt sex with a goat to live on even the most specious of arguments and therefore it's morally wrong as the animal cannot consent.

With regards to sexual practices, I feel that informed consent is key.

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But I read it all and agree with you pretty much but like the amount of diseases that could arise from these sick ****ers having sex with an animal,

let me give you an example, I'll use a man for example, just imagine a man called Carl,

Ok Carl pays to have sex with say a goat/cat for example,

Carl uses protection and does his business with the cat/goat, say the protection rips or carls that sick that he doesnt use a condom.

Ok Carl goes home and meets a girl from say a bar and on the same night or same week, gets it on with this girl, (Now naturally a sexual disease will go from him to this girl).

Now Carl having sex with the girl was a one night stand, so now the girl finds another man and has sexual intercourse with him and the disease spreads,

I hope you get what Im saying, whats up with the sick goverments nowadays man, they pass sick laws...

nyways this stuff is sick.. and someone should stand up against this stuff,

What would happen if some sicko saw your cat on the street kidnapped it and raped it? how on earth would that cat be able to come home and tell you it had been raped?

pure sickness..
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