[Freak]

^^^I'm right there with ya!

[Freak]

Right there with Mr. Bhana.. Kenney snuck his post in real quick.

Yeah Kenney but there is a so many cases were Dr. and other professionals will say this can't or won't happen and people prove them wrong everyday.

[kenney]

i know lol like the moon landing. there are things that will never be possible though...for example:

try slamming a rotating door

[mr_bhana]

^^lol i knw what you mean man

[Freak]

I know..

[kenney]

i had to lol

[captainplanet]

Hey man, I can't sit here and say I know how you feel, because I'm sure I don't. So I'm not going to go down that road. However, you say your depression stems from relationship problems...Right there I believe I can help man. I don't know if this helps in any way but look; I just had a 3 year relationship end, my fiance (yes we were going to get married) cheated on me 3 wks ago, we got back together and eventually just ended it like 1 wk ago...and to make a long story short I'm absolutley a wreck right now, I see her every where and I miss her more than anyone will know. I have cried everyday for the past wk, at least once. Am I depressed? Yeah in a way I am. But I'm still going on with my life, training, working, going to school and so on. Nothing seems the same, and I'm not sure if it ever will. This is in no way an attempt to make this thread about me, no. This is to let you know man, that you are in no way alone. Pain and depression is experienced by everyone. I am terribly sorry you are in your situation, I in some way know how it is man. But to let you know, if you need someone to talk to, theres a band of brothers on this site that are here for you, use them.

[Stabber]

The relationship problem is like former mentioned just the thing that made it all tip over, 5 years ago when I started I didn't even have a girlfriend, and my current girlfriend I've only been with for half a year. This go way beyond girlfriend problems, and are more sophisticated. Sometimes I can't even figure out why I'm depressed, sometimes it's just there, the sad mood and the pain.. When I am in this state of mind, there is nothing that keeps me from thinking about all the things that makes me very depressed. It seems like some of you think that I'm not depressed, because I can write it here and tell about it, keep in mind that I have been carrying around with this for 5 years without anyone knowing.. My parents and friends still don't know! I'm writing it in here because I don't have to look anyone of you in the eyes, and I will never see you guys.. It was back a few months ago I convinced myself that I am suffering from depression, and thinking back I now know that this goes way back, all the depressions and pain.. It has always been there, just always pushed it "pushed" it away, and tried to not care about it.. I know now that the last thing I should have done was that, but I did it and now it's all a mess.

[poison ivy]

Originally Posted by Stormy

I know exactly what you mean Poison. A lot of times you'll come across people who are essentially masturbating over their own angst or just using it as a stupid chat up technique to pull stupider girls. And yes, most of these will be of the goth/emo variety (I really hated my local goth scene). This of course makes it worse for the genuinely depressed because a lot of them won't admit to it for fear of being bullied or associated with the aforementioned folk.

For me it was a great relief to be diagnosed with depression. Once I realised it was a genuine, unavoidable problem I started having more fun. I knew there were points in my life where I'd be tired of living and miserable as sin but I also knew it had nothing to do with me as a person; it was just a physical part of me being a bit messed up. I'm glad to have it. Sure my life really sucked for a while but I've emerged a better person for it.

Well said, and thanks stormy

No doubt people disagree with some aspects of my replies but lets not hide from the fact a clinically diagnosed depressive will not admit they are depressed nor will they even realize they are depressed as being part of the condition !! Im really sorry to hear this guys having these so called problems but I just cant help but think what he is going through is all about seeking attention becaused perhaps maybe hes not in the family lime-lite etc , or maybe he has no mates to hang with so finds this forum as a haven for that reason ??!

Advertising the so called fact how depressed he says he is isnt the mind of a true depressive ... more like someone who feels left out of the crowd and longs for attention, because lets be honest this forum is certainly going to give him that !

This is why I think he wont go to a professional purely because the professional would diagnose his symptoms as a NON depressive and is scared to get found out !

I have worked with clinically depressed, they have far worse symptoms.

[moorey]

There are 3 different types of depression. reactive through grief, endogenous which is effects people for no apparent reason and Bi- polar affective disorder through the chronic stage of the illness. there are three types of anti depressant: Amino Oxidase inhibiters. Trycyclics and Selective serotine inhibitors, the first two are from the early years of clinical use and the lastone along with non selective SSRI is from the new age, All anti depressants have side efects ranging from drynesss of mouth, to retarded ejaculation. The main therapy being succesfully used in treatment of severe and enduring depression is Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, it has proven success but like any other therapy relies heavily on the quality of the relationship betwen patient and therapist!

[moorey]

Originally Posted by mvillelifter

No..St. John Wort will not "interfere" with the way you think. Sometimes the first couple weeks you may feel different than you have, but not any better. It takes a month or two to fully get effects. It was like that for me at least.

Hiya mate do you find because the St Johns wart acts on seretonin levels that it elevates your chances of going into an acute faze?