[Stabber]

Originally Posted by poison ivy

Hey stabber ! Im going to be blunt im afraid as apposed to my previous post but is this thread and the last 5 years of depression all stem from some high school sweetheart BullS*hit ?? whos fallen out of love and you have never gotten over her ????

I really hope not because my marriage broke down after 4 years and I was the one who took the step and ended it ... well towards the end it was more of a mutual agreement that we end but I still to this VERY day hate myself and feel SO SO guilty I ended something which just wasnt working out ! Part of me feels i did the right thing yet another part feels wtf have I done !

If your depression stems from what i have written above I have one last thing to say on the subject ....
Alot of worse things have happened to other people yet we must get through it alone and be strong even at the worst of times. So if its about some girl you thought you would live the rest of your life with " GET OVER IT "

And on the other hand if your depression stems from real bad family problems such as cancer in the family or some other fatal illness I apoligise and wish a good outcome to all concerned.

I didn't have a high school girlfriend. My depression is like a puzzle, there is not one thing that makes my depression, it's many things. Yes sickness in my family is one of them, my mother has a larger than normal heart, which gives her an unusual high blood pressure, and not regular heart beats. If this was about some girl I couldn't get over or something, I would never post it here. This is a very serious matter, and that is why I'm posting here. Posting this thread was tough for me, I'm not good with talking about feelings and all that, I usually keep everything to myself but I've reached the end now, so I tried and unusual "for me anyways" way to get better. I'm sad that it can be misunderstood with things like that, because high school girlfriends and so on is for me anyways, nothing compared to my problems. I thought I had explained myself good enough so this could not be misunderstood.. Guess I didn't, but I don't know how else to put it.. But I can tell you that it has nothing with tiny problems to do, this is a depression.. and depression is nothing like being sad, which I would only be if some high school girlfriend broke with me.

[Stabber]

Originally Posted by kenney666

ahhh depression...the problem with depression is people who suffer from it try and get rid of it all at once. you have to figure out your problems and try to overcome them one by one. a method you could try is the 'Depression Pyramid' or 'Fear Pyramid.' you write down everything that is holding you down, ie relationships, domestic troubles etc and form a pyramid out of them. put the least important at the top and the most depressing thing at the bottom. this way you will have at least written down and acknowledged what is depressing you. then you can try to begin to sort out your problems one by one starting from the top of the pyramid. you might not take this on board but it is something worth trying

Sounds like a great idea, think I will try it thank you mate.

[kenney]

anything i can do to help. seriously try it...if all else fails, think of how lucky you are (of course suffering with depression wont make you feel lucky) but look at it this way, you have a home (i assume) you have a girlfriend, a family, you live in a rich country and so on

[kenney]

Originally Posted by Freak

AWESOME KENNEY! yeah right it out get it on paper. Kinda like your poems, it WILL help.

Psychology classes are paying off!!! lol seriously though, i got the idea from Geoff Thompson, ive mentioned him so many times. check out his books on play.com

Freak i got a book reccomendation for you!

[Stabber]

Originally Posted by kenney666

anything i can do to help. seriously try it...if all else fails, think of how lucky you are (of course suffering with depression wont make you feel lucky) but look at it this way, you have a home (i assume) you have a girlfriend, a family, you live in a rich country and so on

Yea I try to think of these things, but little do they help.. if any at all.

[Freak]

Originally Posted by kenney666

Psychology classes are paying off!!! lol seriously though, i got the idea from Geoff Thompson, ive mentioned him so many times. check out his books on play.com

Freak i got a book reccomendation for you!

Which one? There are several. Can't wait.

[kenney]

Originally Posted by Stabber

Yea I try to think of these things, but little do they help.. if any at all.

yeah i know how you feel...as sad as it seems though, its easier to find hope by pitying others

[kenney]

Originally Posted by Freak

Which one? There are several. Can't wait.

PM!

[Stormy]

I suffered from depression for quite a few years. You don't feel positive about anything so you end up thinking negatively because that's the only emotional reaction you get out of things. Eventually you'll convince yourself your life's worth nothing because all you do is focus on the dark things.

The worst thing you can do is surround yourself with miserable stuff. You may as well be punching yourself in the skull and asking 'why does my head hurt?'. It sounds harsh but it's true. If it's miserable, chuck it out. If it ain't having a positive effect on your life then you don't need it. Suggested things would be certain poetry, MySpace, anything Emo related, Anne Rice, Korn and anyone who tries to compete over 'who's the most depressed'.

Depression is an illness, nothing more. If you kept getting violent diarrhoea you'd start asking yourself what made you spend so much of your life on the bog. Work out what things trigger your mood swings and see about either avoiding them or preparing yourself to deal with them. Ultimately you need to make that decision to want to fight it.

[mvillelifter]

No..St. John Wort will not "interfere" with the way you think. Sometimes the first couple weeks you may feel different than you have, but not any better. It takes a month or two to fully get effects. It was like that for me at least.

[kenney]

bro...Korn own! ^^^