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I reannounce my faith... and... it feels AWESOME!
Old 05-18-2007, 06:38 PM   #1
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for 20 years I've been believing in god and jesus christ as our saviour.
I believed that no matter what... if you have true regrets, you can receive forgiveness.
Don't do bad things but right things.
Every person has a chanse to change (that's basic pschology also, human being is rational moral and psychic being and can learn new things)

You know how that goes.

The bible, I was reading it the other day. Everything made sense to me... that none of it made any sense. It's all bullshit.
Bible has a message, but there is no god, no spirits... it's all bullshit. it's all big moral control system, a way to keep control of freedome.

Universe does not have rules... so why does god give us rules of good and bad? good and bad which apply to our moral conquense.
But, if human being in fact is an empty picture when it's born and at the same time a rational and learning being, you can teach anything to it. Anything to keep control over. Everything from atoms to idea's of impossible and possible, and good and bad also. Just to keep control.

But since universe doesn't have any rules, there is no god.

As a christian I allways thought that the people who don't have touch in reality, who don't understand the difference between killing and eating cheerios, jesus will forgive them because they don't know what they do.

Ok, so since the whore eve ate from the tree of knowledge and offered an apple to adam, they both became aware of their nudity, sexual thought's, control, boarders... everything came into their awereness.

None of that makes sense. There is no good or bad, there is no proof of it, there is no proof that human being is sexual construction or moral construction. It's neither, it's all put in your head.

Everywhere you go people have these expectations about you, rules of acting, rules of behaving... all that crap, it has nothing to do with evolving...

I can't believe I was the victim of these made up rules.

.... My thought's were much clearer about this earlyer, but this is basicly what I thought... I guess my rant is over.

WELL!!! This is what I wanted to say, and I feel greate, I feel like a new person, pure, and one step closer to better freedome. Freedome from prying eyes and expectations. I feel good.

Only universal there is math. You can't bend that over or change that, you can't learn betetr from that. Math is and will allways be.

if it's not religion why people go to war, it's money, it's "social differences", it's.... everything else.... but not math. Noone can argue about math. If people would work together and spend money to space science, medicine's things like that instead of war and stop praying for fruck sake.. the world would make so much sense.
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:32 PM   #2
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Wow!

It must feel liberating to get that off of your chest. There are many, I'm sure, who would not agree with all of your thoughts, but that is their perogative.

For me, math rules. It is always there. In everything. Always has been. And always will be.

Anyway, brave post.
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Old 05-19-2007, 01:32 AM   #3
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it took you 20 years to figure this out?
 
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:47 AM   #4
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its good that you discovered it while you could bro! i always believed that religion was just a method of controling people,their behaviour and their moral value. jesus was just a celebrity and his stories got exaggerated...imo
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Old 05-21-2007, 05:48 PM   #5
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its good that you discovered it while you could bro! i always believed that religion was just a method of controling people,their behaviour and their moral value. jesus was just a celebrity and his stories got exaggerated...imo
What if he actually were more than that, and so were religion. What if it's the religious zealots that have lost the message. What if Jesus has to grimace (or allah or any religiously iconic figure) at how the majority of the human race has missed (or worse - ignored) the true meaning of the message, and instead preaches their own brand of bigotry and separatism instead of Love and Peace?

"What if God was one of us?"
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:02 PM   #6
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i think the key is to believe in God and not religion, religion is simply how you worship
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Old 05-22-2007, 06:36 AM   #7
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i think the key is to believe in God and not religion, religion is simply how you worship
fair point. compulut could you repost that in english lol
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:20 PM   #8
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Well, it didn't take 20 years to figure this out, since I just started to think about this.

But world will attain it's form as it is now for a long time, and it will only get worse, untill jesus comes for the 2nd time.... I'm telling you he ain't coming LOL!
This planet will have "another country's" talking about country's like their other planet's even though they are just miles away from my place, and I can't go to those place's because it wouldn't be politcally correct, I don't have a passport. This planet will have class difference's and importance difference's, nothing is free and you can't do anything for your self alone even if it wouldn't hurt anyone.
People live in streets and getting dirty and sick for it, while other's don't, so do animal's, sure, but if animals transformed into human being's none of them would live outside, everyone would have a roof above'em.

Oh well... what can I do about this, from right here I can't do anything, but it's good to be aware. X-files suck ass lol, but there is infact conspiracy and control over true freedom.
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:23 PM   #9
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Well, it didn't take 20 years to figure this out, since I just started to think about this.

But world will attain it's form as it is now for a long time, and it will only get worse, untill jesus comes for the 2nd time.... I'm telling you he ain't coming LOL!
This planet will have "another country's" talking about country's like their other planet's even though they are just miles away from my place, and I can't go to those place's because it wouldn't be politcally correct, I don't have a passport. This planet will have class difference's and importance difference's, nothing is free and you can't do anything for your self alone even if it wouldn't hurt anyone.
People live in streets and getting dirty and sick for it, while other's don't, so do animal's, sure, but if animals transformed into human being's none of them would live outside, everyone would have a roof above'em.

Oh well... what can I do about this, from right here I can't do anything, but it's good to be aware. X-files suck ass lol, but there is infact conspiracy and control over true freedom.
i agree with that
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Outside of any social and moral constructs, bad and good exist. Even in the bacteria and microscopic world. Say the human body for existance, a virus enters your body, your body defends against it because it knows its detrimental for your body. A virus isn't nessecarilly bad itself, but its bad for the body.

You can relate that analogy to alot of other things. If I were to kill another person because I was hungry, its bad for them, good for me, if this person is in a society, that society feels its their obligigation to protect everything within it so that it can prosper.

Alot of things in the bible are probably overexaggerated. Regardless of who wrote it first or when they wrote it, it was translated and written by people. And people take creative liberty over what they write or rewrite. If someone were to paraphrase this post, it would be different, the way its presented and the information in it.

Theres good and bad in everything. Religion just happens to fall in that category. People will take stuff out of context and pervert it to whatever extent. Like greenpeace, I denounce greenpeace and view them as a terroist organazation.
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:40 PM   #11
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awesome post ^^^
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