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Old 06-26-2006, 08:59 PM   #1
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Do you believe in heaven and hell? why or why not

Do you believe that we are all here for a specific purpose?

What are your views on this subject? Have you had any experience in life that have made you question this belief?

FYI... this thread is for people who actually have something to say, if you have jokes then go to joke elsewhere hehe
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AND YOU WILL TELL THEM YES."


In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don't.

Being a Christian is like being a pumpkin. God lifts you up, takes you in, and washes all the dirt off of you. He opens you up, touches you deep inside and scoops out all the yucky stuff, including the seeds of doubt, hate, greed, etc. Then He carves you a new smiling face and puts His light inside you to shine for all the world to see.
 
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:08 PM   #2
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Do you believe in heaven and hell? why or why not
No, I use to but not anymore.

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Do you believe that we are all here for a specific purpose?
Yes, everyone is here for a reason and it's up to us to find what it is. Doesn't necassarily need to be something big (i.e. - actor) but whatever makes you happy.

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When I found out that there are certain cures for cancer but governments will not release them because they wouldn't make money off of the rehabs and surgery's....that right there is enough in itself.
 
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:48 PM   #3
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Do you believe in heaven and hell? why or why not
Do you believe that we are all here for a specific purpose?

What are your views on this subject? Have you had any experience in life that have made you question this belief?

FYI... this thread is for people who actually have something to say, if you have jokes then go to joke elsewhere hehe
Yes i fully believe in a heaven and a hell. U know its easy to jsut give up your faith and say their no such thing, bc IT IS EASIER to live without faith and having your own morals than with faith and following Gods morals. The biggest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing mankind he didn't exsist.

YEs i do believe we are all hear for a reason. It is something i believe bc ive experienced it. If your blessed with something i think u should work toward it and do your best at it bc thats what your ment to do. If your smart than use that to your best ability, and try and make others lives better somehow. Im not saying that everyone does this, but if u have a God given gift then I believe that u should work towards your gift.

Awesome Thread Serbmarko!
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:08 AM   #4
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I believe in heave, but not in hell.

I believe in a magnificient God, God loves us, he loves us more than anyone... will u sent your loved ones to hell? No.

Jesuschrist is Love.

I believe that humans beings have something other creatures don't have: Soul.

The soul will never die. And remember, we will be alive one more time. Keep the faith. Believe. He said it.
 
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:18 AM   #5
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I believe in heave, but not in hell.

I believe in a magnificient God, God loves us, he loves us more than anyone... will u sent your loved ones to hell? No.

Jesuschrist is Love.

I believe that humans beings have something other creatures don't have: Soul.

The soul will never die. And remember, we will be alive one more time. Keep the faith. Believe. He said it.
I believe you have created your own God my friend, there is only one Jesus and he preached about hell more then he did about heaven.. heres something to ponder

I can't believe in a God who would send people to Hell.
Hell was originally created for Satan and his angels. In the future it will contain those who join Satan in rejecting God. If you reject God's provision for the forgiveness of your sins, then you will join the Devil who rejected God from the beginning. Is that what you want?

Could you believe in a God who would become a human, suffer at the hands of humans, and be killed by them, all so that His death could be the payment for their sins? That is extremely loving. God is saving people who deserve to go to Hell - and we all deserve that. Remember that the same God that sends people to Hell also died for them. If they reject what God has provided, then what is God left to do? He would have to judge them.

Whether you believe in something or not does not change the fact of its existence. Jesus spoke often of Hell (Matt. 25:41-46; Mark 9:47-48; Luke 16:19-31), and warned us so we would not go there. Would you say Jesus didn't know what He was talking about?

Are you implying that it is unjust for God to send people to Hell? If so, then you accuse God of injustice. Sin is wrong and it must be punished. What would you have God do to those who oppose Him and do evil? Do you want Him to ignore that which is wrong? Do you want Him to turn His head and not be holy and righteous?
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AND YOU WILL TELL THEM YES."


In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don't.

Being a Christian is like being a pumpkin. God lifts you up, takes you in, and washes all the dirt off of you. He opens you up, touches you deep inside and scoops out all the yucky stuff, including the seeds of doubt, hate, greed, etc. Then He carves you a new smiling face and puts His light inside you to shine for all the world to see.
 
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:24 AM   #6
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Are you implying that it is unjust for God to send people to Hell? If so, then you accuse God of injustice. Sin is wrong and it must be punished. What would you have God do to those who oppose Him and do evil? Do you want Him to ignore that which is wrong? Do you want Him to turn His head and not be holy and righteous?
You think God thinks as an human.

Sin is bad -> TRUE
The bad should be punished -> YES

That's were a human act and think. But God, with his extreme love doesn't want his sons to die, to go to Hell, even if they deny God's existance. You will do the same for your sons, even if they don't love you.
 
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:52 AM   #7
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You think God thinks as an human.

Sin is bad -> TRUE
The bad should be punished -> YES

That's were a human act and think. But God, with his extreme love doesn't want his sons to die, to go to Hell, even if they deny God's existance. You will do the same for your sons, even if they don't love you.

once again your making your own God up.. there is only one God and thats the God of the holy bible.. and no where in scripture does it say what you just said...

Job 21 19 It is said, 'God stores up a man's punishment for his sons.'
Let him repay the man himself, so that he will know it!

22 "Can anyone teach knowledge to God,
since he judges even the highest?

Proverbs 16:22
Understanding is a fountain of life to those who have it, but folly brings punishment to fools.


Luke 12:48
But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.


Romans 13:4
For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.


Jude 1:7
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
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"All your life you are told the things you cannot do. All your life they will say you're not good enough or strong enough or talented enough; they will say you're the wrong height or the wrong weight or the wrong type to play this or be this or achieve this. THEY WILL TELL YOU NO, a thousand times no, until all the no's become meaningless. All your life they will tell you no, quite firmly and very quickly.
AND YOU WILL TELL THEM YES."


In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don't.

Being a Christian is like being a pumpkin. God lifts you up, takes you in, and washes all the dirt off of you. He opens you up, touches you deep inside and scoops out all the yucky stuff, including the seeds of doubt, hate, greed, etc. Then He carves you a new smiling face and puts His light inside you to shine for all the world to see.
 
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:56 AM   #8
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Matthew 5:29
If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

Matthew 10:28
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 23:15
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 12:5
But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him.

James 3:6
The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
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"All your life you are told the things you cannot do. All your life they will say you're not good enough or strong enough or talented enough; they will say you're the wrong height or the wrong weight or the wrong type to play this or be this or achieve this. THEY WILL TELL YOU NO, a thousand times no, until all the no's become meaningless. All your life they will tell you no, quite firmly and very quickly.
AND YOU WILL TELL THEM YES."


In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don't.

Being a Christian is like being a pumpkin. God lifts you up, takes you in, and washes all the dirt off of you. He opens you up, touches you deep inside and scoops out all the yucky stuff, including the seeds of doubt, hate, greed, etc. Then He carves you a new smiling face and puts His light inside you to shine for all the world to see.
 
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:20 AM   #9
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Put it this way ... whatever is after this life surely couldnt suck as much ass as this world does !!!... Or could it? lol
 
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:33 AM   #10
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Hey serbmarko did u know that scientists are actually coming up with proof of a heaven, and a hell. They are taking all these people with near death experiences and asking them what hapened when they were flatlined, and every single one of them is telling them they exact same story. Their is some sort of bright light, and a comforting voice.

In one instance a little girl flatlined, and when she came to said she had been talking with a man, and their was a picture of Jesus on the wall and she said that was the man that had been talking with her and told her to go back to her mother.

AWESOEM in my opinion, it was a show on Eternal Worship Network Television. Reguardless it was cool to see and hear them talk about it was an hour long show.

Im off for breakfast yall!
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:42 AM   #11
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Yeah Ben, ive heard of people that have passed on and seen the white light there are many books out their with proof of this as well.. but no works can save a mans soul.. its by Grace that we are saved
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"All your life you are told the things you cannot do. All your life they will say you're not good enough or strong enough or talented enough; they will say you're the wrong height or the wrong weight or the wrong type to play this or be this or achieve this. THEY WILL TELL YOU NO, a thousand times no, until all the no's become meaningless. All your life they will tell you no, quite firmly and very quickly.
AND YOU WILL TELL THEM YES."


In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don't.

Being a Christian is like being a pumpkin. God lifts you up, takes you in, and washes all the dirt off of you. He opens you up, touches you deep inside and scoops out all the yucky stuff, including the seeds of doubt, hate, greed, etc. Then He carves you a new smiling face and puts His light inside you to shine for all the world to see.
 
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:45 AM   #12
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Put it this way ... whatever is after this life surely couldnt suck as much ass as this world does !!!... Or could it? lol

oh yes my friend.. this is nothing compared to hell


Hell is a place of physical agony, mental suffering, loneliness and emotional sorrow. Yeshua (Hebrew name for Jesus) described it as a place where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.(Jude 6; Matt 8:12; Matt 13:42, 50; Matt 25:30

Hell is a place of insecurity and fear. The Bible describes it as a bottomless pit, an abyss. (Revelation 20:1).

Hell is a place of instability. It is described as a lake of fire. Hell is a place where every moment is lived in uncertainty (Matthew 5:21-23; Revelation 20:15).

Hell is a pit of darkness; totally devoid of light. It is pitch black in hell; there's nothing to distract people from their suffering, sorrow, fears, insecurities, and instability. (2 Peter 3-5).

Hell is a p