[serbmarko]

Originally Posted by robcardu

Could u close this thread please????

I think after seeing whats goin on in here.. i think i have to agree with you

[BigBen]

Originally Posted by jornT

Selfish bitch.

Make things, so they can worship you.

Why do u have so much anger over the subject Jorn, its making u sound ignorant. If u wish to debate please keep it clean.

[serbmarko]

Originally Posted by BigBen

Why do u have so much anger over the subject Jorn, its making u sound ignorant. If u wish to debate please keep it clean.

I think with respect to members of this board, it would be good to have this thread closed or have a certain member stop talking or simply start being education about a debate and not a retard.. this is getting out of hand and for that reason alone.. I KNOW THERE IS A GOD

[BigBen]

Serb what it comes down to is that Jorn is chosing to not believe bro, their is historical evidance that Jesus exsisted, and even more evidance that he was definately more than man(God). He is chosing to ignore this evidance and theirfore no amount of scripture of anything else will make him see that God is true, Loving, and very real.

Ill continue to debate, in hope that u start seeing that your ignoring historical truths that are just as true as the signing of the decloration of independance.

Its hard to comprehend that for a non believer that jesus rose from the dead, but it should be even harder for a non believer to ignore the historical facts written outside of the bible that have been wrote down by unbiased indivuals on either side of the arguement.

[pegasus]

Originally Posted by jornT

I don't care what the idea was, it fails...

Intentions are nice, but innoncent are still suffering, and if God has the power to help them and he refuses to, he's a A-hole in my book.

Next it would be, "I'm not a millionair yet, or me body's not like i'd want it to be! god's got the power give me them but he refuses to, ............."

As if he needs to prove him self to one of his creations, tbh bigB nd serb this guy jst keeps sayin th same thing nd i don't htink he even reads th stuff u'r spending u'r time to find and provide to him.

[serbmarko]

Originally Posted by pegasus

Next it would be, "I'm not a millionair yet, or me body's not like i'd want it to be! god's got the power give me them but he refuses to, ............."

As if he needs to prove him self to one of his creations, tbh bigB nd serb this guy jst keeps sayin th same thing nd i don't htink he even reads th stuff u'r spending u'r time to find and provide to him.

theres a saying, and i believe its become evident that its happening here

"Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6).

[jornT]

Originally Posted by serbmarko

1. Textual reliability of the ancient document 5. Accounts written by eyewitnesses
2. Retention of crucifixion wounds post event 6. No counter historic information
3. Post death appearances to many people 7. Jesus' body is gone from the tomb
4. Prophetic fulfillment 8. Changed lives

1. Fiction for all you know, no prove for it
2. You would have to belive others word for this, no prove for it.
3. You would have to belive others word for this, no prove for it.
4. Circuliar logic, not prove
5. You would have to belive others word for this, no prove for it.
6. There isn't counter information for the voices pysco's hear, doesn't make it true.
7. Documented in which reliable source? No prove.
8. No prove, you act diffrently, so?

[jornT]

Originally Posted by pegasus

Next it would be, "I'm not a millionair yet, or me body's not like i'd want it to be! god's got the power give me them but he refuses to, ............."

As if he needs to prove him self to one of his creations, tbh bigB nd serb this guy jst keeps sayin th same thing nd i don't htink he even reads th stuff u'r spending u'r time to find and provide to him.

LOL.

Everyone has a right on exsistence right? That's something else than luxious things.

Letting people die is a no no, don't make excuses for it.

[jornT]

Originally Posted by BigBen

Serb what it comes down to is that Jorn is chosing to not believe bro, their is historical evidance that Jesus exsisted, and even more evidance that he was definately more than man(God). He is chosing to ignore this evidance and theirfore no amount of scripture of anything else will make him see that God is true, Loving, and very real.

Ill continue to debate, in hope that u start seeing that your ignoring historical truths that are just as true as the signing of the decloration of independance.

Its hard to comprehend that for a non believer that jesus rose from the dead, but it should be even harder for a non believer to ignore the historical facts written outside of the bible that have been wrote down by unbiased indivuals on either side of the arguement.

No No No. There isn't evidence. Show it to me, and I swear (to God?) that I'll live as a holy man from today.

But show me real evidence, and not something you accept as evidence.

[jornT]

Originally Posted by serbmarko

theres a saying, and i believe its become evident that its happening here

"Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6).

So you can't win the discussion, so you leave it. What a suprise, I could have told you that 17 pages ago.

[robcardu]

Damn i love pasta!!!!!!

[pegasus]

Originally Posted by jornT

LOL.

Everyone has a right on exsistence right? That's something else than luxious things.

Letting people die is a no no, don't make excuses for it.

The fact that every one has a right for existance is very true and its something that every holy book says, "live and let live" but its those of us who don't like to read and obide some of this very basic and logical rules, coming up with excuses like they'r only words etc and decide to come up with new crap to help ease their concience or either th simple fact that they have no morals or they'r better and more intelligant than others (like some one on this threat!!), basically what i'm sayin is that if we ALL followed what our religions told us to do, there won't be non of this wars etc, which are thought but idiots who do so in th name of religion or by sayin that a country's a part of th evil axis etc nd hence they can go do what ever th fuck they wanna do, this ain't what religions told them to do, they are the ones who think they'r above every one else and religions.

Whats funny here is that, when bigB or seb come up with stuff from their holy book u say its all crap nd shit, only words written by some old guy. then when it comes to u nd u try to provide evidence u reffer to some old biology book u went through one night before an exam or some shit, isnt' that a book with jst words in it?!? most likely written by some old guy. u'll prob say he's mentioned exactly how he carried out ht expriments or what ever, how can u be so sure though, did u travel back n time nd watch th lil organism come out ht sea and htey u followed it through millions of years nd saw what it has become. i'm not sayin th evolution theory is wrong, but end of th day nothing apear out of no where, every scientist will tell u that, now can u answer this question, let say th galaxies appeared a billion year ago, can u tell me what was there a billion minus 1 years ago, thta lead to th creation of th galaxies nd all them stars soem of which exploded nd one of th pieces became earth.