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Old 06-27-2006, 11:01 PM   #121
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:41 AM   #122
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WORST THREAD EVER.

No really. You guys are really nutz and should see a doc for this.

You're are just the biggest and oldest cult.

I don't have spiritual evolution robcardu? Give me a fucking break. I can't help it I'm a rational intilligent man and I need some fantasy God in order to have a goal in live. Y'all some insucure and most all crazy mofo's na dplz die today, so you can go to heaven.
 
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Old 06-28-2006, 04:01 AM   #123
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And stop quoting phrases liek it means anthing or proves anything. DO you think you can hypnotise me or something?
I can do whateever I want


BTW: I REALLY think all "good" people will have his chance to get to heaven, Christian and not Christian.
 
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:50 AM   #124
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WORST THREAD EVER.

No really. You guys are really nutz and should see a doc for this.

You're are just the biggest and oldest cult.

I don't have spiritual evolution robcardu? Give me a fucking break. I can't help it I'm a rational intilligent man and I need some fantasy God in order to have a goal in live. Y'all some insucure and most all crazy mofo's na dplz die today, so you can go to heaven.
if he's an example of a rational intilligent man who's only metion is to reproduce then god help us!
 
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:11 AM   #125
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if he's an example of a rational intilligent man who's only metion is to reproduce then god help us!
You are just a fucking organism, how hard is that to comprehend? You don't have a soul whatsoever. Learn how the human brain works.

And God can't help you..
 
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:15 AM   #126
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2) the bible was written by man, not god
3) it wasnt even written at first but hundreds of years later
ever heard of the dead sea scrolls
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:41 AM   #127
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You are just a fucking organism, how hard is that to comprehend? You don't have a soul whatsoever. Learn how the human brain works.

And God can't help you..
who created the first organism do so research and get back to me
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Old 06-28-2006, 12:38 PM   #128
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jornT, ANYBODY knows who human brain works really. They don't know how the info is coded, they don't know almost nothing about metacircuits and metastructures... they don't know how brain differenciates the important info of an impulse...

Yeah, I Know Humanity will reach that goal and we will explain how the brain works... but... always there will something that you couldn explain: The infinity.

What was before the first second of our world???
a) Nothing: how the hell nothing??? We are living now in an universe contained in nothing?
b) Something: ok. Who happend before?

This is recursive...

One more question: some phisics say the Universe is expanding.... to where??? And, what was there before the expansion? SOme of them say it would stop expanding and then it would crunch. When will it stop growing?? Maybe when it reaches the side of the HUGE box where the universe is placed???

Mate...
 
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Old 06-28-2006, 04:57 PM   #129
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This thread could go on forever. Doesn't really matter what you believe because there isn't enough evidence to convince people of the science part or the faith part. Considering the majority of posters on this forum are young you will get a lot of people that are not religious and perhaps tend to lean towards the science aspect. Whenever people cannont find a logical explanation for something they grasp the closest possible idea that makes sense....especially being young.

Right, deep down I suppose I do believe in God. Sometimes I try to convince myself there isn't just because of things I see everyday but deep down I do. Though I'm not a real religious (I don't go to church) there are many beliefs of mine that do relate to my religion (waiting till im married to have sex for example). Yea, I still sin but im not going to put my entire life on lock down because of my religion. I swear, I masturbate, and I occasionally drink once a year or so. All I'm saying is that everyone has their own beliefs but theres no sense in arguing over it, I get enough of this watching TV around Christmas.
 
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Old 06-28-2006, 05:03 PM   #130
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jornT, ANYBODY knows who human brain works really. They don't know how the info is coded, they don't know almost nothing about metacircuits and metastructures... they don't know how brain differenciates the important info of an impulse...

Yeah, I Know Humanity will reach that goal and we will explain how the brain works... but... always there will something that you couldn explain: The infinity.

What was before the first second of our world???
a) Nothing: how the hell nothing??? We are living now in an universe contained in nothing?
b) Something: ok. Who happend before?

This is recursive...

One more question: some phisics say the Universe is expanding.... to where??? And, what was there before the expansion? SOme of them say it would stop expanding and then it would crunch. When will it stop growing?? Maybe when it reaches the side of the HUGE box where the universe is placed???

Mate...
Yes those answers aren't there YET. 1000 years ago we knew shit about shit.

And that phisics can't explain it, doesn't mean God is true. It's just one of your fantasies, and I could come up with 1000 others, which you have no chance of proving wrong.
 
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Old 06-28-2006, 05:05 PM   #131
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who created the first organism do so research and get back to me
Lol, simple answer: energy.

If you would have read the whole thread, you would have read that that was the first thing I learned in school. And it has been repeated in experiments time after time, you can make a live form from nothing but energy.

Sorry, you lose.
 
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Old 06-28-2006, 05:27 PM   #132
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Lol, simple answer: energy.

If you would have read the whole thread, you would have read that that was the first thing I learned in school. And it has been repeated in experiments time after time, you can make a live form from nothing but energy.

Sorry, you lose.
what if energy exsists, where did energy come from? how old are you Jorn?
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Old 06-28-2006, 05:34 PM   #133
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this argument is a never ending circle.. bottom line is this

QUESTION: So why is the Biblical creation myth right and the Hopi or Navajo creation myth wrong? Science doesn't have all the answers, but the scientific consensus overwhelmingly supports evolution. When you turn on the light switch is it God or science that makes the light turn on? If you say God then you are a fool. I'll take logic and reason any day to the myth and superstition that are the stuff of religion. Thanks to science we now know that the earth is no longer flat. How much longer will the dogma of religion keep us bound in ignorance?

RESPONSE: There are a few points in this that need a response: the author's attitude, the reference to the creations stories, electricity, logic and reason, the place of science, and evolution itself.


The author's attitude: We see this a lot. If creation is simply a myth, and if religion is simply superstition, why the anger? Certainly real knowledge and reality itself would easily override them, would they not? No one is furious that some refuse to walk under a ladder. It is laughed off and tolerated. Nor is it "religion" that seems to provoke many to this kind of ire, but rather Christianity itself -- and, in particular, the biblical Christianity that considers the Bible means what it says and says what it means. I don't think fantasy is threatening these people. I think their own rejection of God might be, however. It must be awfully hard to look at the whole of creation and attribute it to time and chance instead of intelligent design. It must be frightening, too, to have that point of view in and of itself: it gives man no hope, no meaning, no purpose, no outside reference point for his behavior or thoughts. It's every man for himself and "devil take the hindmost." That would frighten me, too.

The reference to the creation stories: mythology fascinates me. It is a personal hobby of mine to read as much as I can in this field. I have found there are certain elements which are "hallmarks" of a myth: superhuman humans, exaggerated events and personalities, a "god's eye view" of a situation, and, buried in there somewhere, the event or person (or both) that the myth was created to remember. Because, actually, myths are not spun out of whole cloth -- they are memories couched in stories, legends if you will. And when you strip away th