[EvilDumbell]

Originally Posted by jornT

You guys can't prove shit, and He/HIM/GOD/whatever dude has never talked to me, and never will, for the simple reason, I'm not psycho.

LMAO .. your still a funny bastard jorn. Im not taking sides on this debate but there a couple things we can all agree on

1) no-one can prove or disprove god and satan exist
2) the bible was written by man, not god
3) it wasnt even written at first but hundreds of years later
4) More people die over religion, than any other cause ie muslims againt christians etc

Personally i used to be religious, brought up religious, but like anyone with half a brain you should examine things and not just carry on in life with your families beliefs. Regardless or your own findings.

[BigBen]

Im not here to force anything on anyone, but i just presented a whole page of factual evidance that God does very much exsist, u have to read the previous page.

[EvilDumbell]

Originally Posted by BigBen

THE RESURRECTION

Jesus himself foretold his death and resurrection, and these events came about exactly as he had predicted.

Thats a funny one lol.... the exact thing happened to tupac, he predicted his death and how it would happen and what age he would be when id did. This all came true also, doesnt make tupac god

[Lineski]

Descartes makes a strong case towards a higher-power or God existing. If you guys want to be more "logically" based on your beliefs you should check it out.

[EvilDumbell]

Rocky told me to check out Tha Da Vinci code for answers ... but he sent me Tha Da Vinci Load instead..... damn porno's.. You will burn in hell for that rocky ..

[BigBen]

Originally Posted by EvilDumbell

Thats a funny one lol.... the exact thing happened to tupac, he predicted his death and how it would happen and what age he would be when id did. This all came true also, doesnt make tupac god

u obviously didnt read the whole article, or any of it. Anyways no one in history had ever done that before Jesus, in other words Jesus had noone to copy because he was the original, and tupac Is not. Jesus was the original he was the one, he is God.

[EvilDumbell]

So out of all the Mr Olympia's .... only the first person to win that title was the true Mr Olympia ..... i understand your point. Only the original guy to do it first can be the undesputed king.

Thanks, i was wrong

[serbmarko]

Great posts Big Ben... but whats the point?

[BigBen]

Originally Posted by EvilDumbell

So out of all the Mr Olympia's .... only the first person to win that title was the true Mr Olympia ..... i understand your point. Only the original guy to do it first can be the undesputed king.

Thanks, i was wrong

What your clearly overlooking is that Tupac is not God. I dont understand the comparison between the 2 at all. Tupac said he was, bc he knew the hype he would recieve, Jesus did and their is a legion of followers and factual evidance that proves He did so.

Only a fool would say something is untrue when their is factual evidance presented before him that says otherwise. Not calling u a fool, but u clearly have not read any of my previous posts, and until u do your chosing to ignore factual evidance that God/Jesus does exsist.

[BigBen]

Originally Posted by serbmarko

Great posts Big Ben... but whats the point?

Of my posts?

That their is strong factual evidance that God exsits, and Jesus is who he says he is.

EDIT: Yea its hard to try and provide people with facts when they are already so sure about why tthey shouldn't believe, its amazing how quick people are to chose the easier way in life, o rwhat they think is the easier way.

[EvilDumbell]

Lol.... im only keeping the hotseat warm for jorn until he gets back. Nothing like a bit of controversy though. Im headed for the porn section..... thats pains sin for including that .... !! Bad boy Pain !!

[serbmarko]

1 Peter 4

12 Beloved, don't be astonished at the fiery trial which has come upon you, to test you, as though a strange thing happened to you.

13 But because you are partakers of Christ's sufferings, rejoice; that at the revelation of his glory you also may rejoice with exceeding joy.

14 If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed; because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. On their part he is blasphemed, but on your part he is glorified.

15 For let none of you suffer as a murderer, or a thief, or an evil doer, or a meddler in other men's matters.

16 But if one of you suffers for being a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God in this matter.

17 For the time has come for judgment to begin with the household of God. If it begins first with us, what will happen to those who don't obey the Good News of God?

18 "If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will happen to the ungodly and the sinner?"

19 Therefore let them also who suffer according to the will of God in doing good entrust their souls to him, as to a faithful Creator.

[serbmarko]

Originally Posted by BigBen

Of my posts?

That their is strong factual evidance that God exsits, and Jesus is who he says he is.

no bro.. miscommunication here.. i just meant whats the point of trying to prove something to someone with BLINDS covering his spiritual eyes... sorry man.. should of worded that better