[EvilDumbell]

LOL

[jornT]

Originally Posted by mindstar

ok...i'll post a chapter from my thesis on the topic of how language helps create climates in which those who are violent towards women feel comfortable being such, even if the original speaker had no malevolent intentions with his utterance.

That is what we are talking about, isn't it?

Yes, but pic's are required.

[mindstar]

Originally Posted by jornT

Yes, but pic's are required.

i don't have a sister, but if i can post a pic of Pain's sis, do I win automatically?

[Lineski]

Originally Posted by mindstar

ok...i'll post a chapter from my thesis on the topic of how language helps create climates in which those who are violent towards women feel comfortable being such, even if the original speaker had no malevolent intentions with his utterance.

That is what we are talking about, isn't it?

I'd actually be curious to read a chapter from you thesis and I don't mean that as a dick, I mean it out of genuine curiosity. Anyways, I'm not sure we're on the same page when it comes to the definition "those who are violent towards women." Are we speaking of actual physical violence, sexual violence, verbal violence, or just something along the lines of sexual harrassment. The reason I ask is because the girls or women that I treat poorly put themselves in situations purposely that lead to them being "used" for sexual fulfillment when deep down they crave attention themselves. It's not fair for women to dress in a highly sexual manner to get noticed and use this power over men to manipulate them (let's face it, women as a group are the greatest manipulators this world has ever seen) and me cannot take advantage of similar techniques to get what they want? Is a "hook up" at a party or a one night stand really going to change that girls life? I hope not because if so, and not to sound like Hitler here, we don't need minds like that walking around.

Obviously I'm not going to continue my trend of going to parties/bars and looking for girls for the rest of my life because those men are pathetic; however I'm at an age (21) where I'm not ready to settle down and most (certaintly not all) of the girls I end up with are on the same page as me. It's not that I'm "violent" in any way towards women because I would never do something a women did not want to do; I'm certaintly not out to rape here but I do have fun. I don't think this is desensitizing me from true emotion because I do still feel and I understand situations I put myself in probably moreso than ever before. Also, I hardly consider myself feable minded or immature because on important issues (I'm not saying the climate in which we treat women as a whole isn't important, I'm saying my isolated incidents aren't) because as one middle class studnet cannot affect the social fabric in America.

...and...

Originally Posted by mindstar

i don't have a sister, but if i can post a pic of Pain's sis, do I win automatically?

I didn't know we were winning/losing this discussion but yes, if you post pics of Pain's sis you can win

[mindstar]

hooking up is fine, though in Canada, consent cannot be legally given while under the influence (by either party) and as such, that can become a legal liability. I would say that manipulating people, either guy or girl is usually a shitty thing to do, as my understanding of manipulation is that the manipyulated party is usually acting against their will, and almost certainly against their better instincts. Women doing this to men is shitty, men doing this to women is shitty. I, of course, am guilty of having been shitty towards people too.

My original response was to tweak, who was calling his friend out for not talking shit about women. To that end, I'll reframe it in this context...take all the smack guys can talk about women and replace women with black folk. I'm not going to give an example, but you can see my point as to how that might help create a climate in which hatred and violence are tolerated, even if the original speaker has tons of black friends...

If you'd really like to read some of my thesis, PM me and I'll send you some.

peace.

[xtweak05]

Originally Posted by mindstar

My original response was to tweak, who was calling his friend out for not talking shit about women. To that end, I'll reframe it in this context...take all the smack guys can talk about women and replace women with black folk. I'm not going to give an example, but you can see my point as to how that might help create a climate in which hatred and violence are tolerated, even if the original speaker has tons of black friends...


peace.

I dont think I was calling him out, but I understand what your talking about. I cant really debate with you as your far out of my league and I would just make myself look dumb(er) Very good points made though, good input Mindstar

[mindstar]

and tweak...no one is perfect. most of the people who know me would say i'm a total asshole.

[Gumby51cm]

Originally Posted by mindstar

and tweak...no one is perfect. most of the people who know me would say i'm a total asshole.

i dont know you and already think your an ass.

BTW, whats your thesis on exactly? im interested in it.

[xtweak05]

Originally Posted by mindstar

and tweak...no one is perfect. most of the people who know me would say i'm a total asshole.

I wouldnt go that far, I didnt lose any respect for you brother, probably gained some. True nobody is perfect, dont think anybody is suppose to be, were human.



I cant believe this thread kept so stable, I was thinking how well this kind of thread would do over at Get Big haha that would be pathetic. Glad to see we can keep the respect in here and people can actually post things like this.

I'd be pretty interested in your thesis too man, you should post it.

[mindstar]

my thesis was on anti-sexual assault workshops aimed at groups of men in a university setting...we delivered workshops to frats, varsity teams, residence associations, etc.

It actually was very well recieved, as we tended to have members of those groups as facilitators.

[Gumby51cm]

dude, PM me that thesis please. sounds awesome

[Rocky]

^Post it. Sounds like a good read. May change peoples opinions on things and make an interesting discussion topic.

[Lineski]

Originally Posted by Rocky

^Post it. Sounds like a good read. May change peoples opinions on things and make an interesting discussion topic.

Yeah, post it!