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Old 11-20-2005, 04:42 PM   #1
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Hey everyone.
kind of embaraced to show my pics but i really need input on what the **** to do. after looking at the pics...i see that i want size and that im not even where i want to be. im still SMALL period!

heres my STATS:

i am around 175lbs (according to the stupid scale that i doubt works perfectly)
21 yrs old
5'7"

have been bulking hardcore since 1st week of June with creatine and protein. Creatine was stopped begining of November.
before builking i was around 145 i believe.

I need some input on if i should continue bulking or not. i do want to get to 200lbs if possible but its taking me a hard ass time to do that. i can seem to get any heavier than 175lbs





 
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Damn man looks like you have stretch marks all over! And is that a pikachu doll??? :lol:
 
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chest, tri's, rear delts, and slow down on the bulk a little bit. maybe drop down to 165 for awile and then start back up.
 
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pokemon has you beat on the traps
 
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Old 11-20-2005, 05:23 PM   #5
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Uriell....yes the strech marks are way too much because i use to be a skinny guy 3yrs ago untill i knew wht im doing and due to the massive weight gain and training i got them. i used to be 129 before i started to train. oh ya that pikachu doll is NOT MINE lol...i went over to her place and took some pics...oh well

Grumby.....u mentioned chest, tri's, rear delts....but wht about them...u mean i need to get them out there right? i do need to work on them alot but i just dont know wht im doing wrong. how comes ur suggesting to cut down till 165 then go back up...i expected to hear i need to bulk alot more?!?
 
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I think he means that you should get your BF down a little before you start training to gain more weight and it's harder to cut later on.
 
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how big are your biceps?
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Biceps look good. I would also consider dropping down about 10-15 pounds before you bulk up again. You would probably look really good at 160.
 
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im not too impressed with my biceps at all....they are about 16 inches only. so Flex wht kind of a diet u think i can go into cuz i have never ever done on a cuting up diet since when i started i was only <130lbs so im sure it will be tough for me but i can do it. i guess i can get to a lean 165-160lbs then bulk up. it may take me up to jan to cut up then i can do winter bulking till the summer then cut back down. that does sound realistic if i can work for it, and i know i can but need a good diet plan.
 
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Old 11-20-2005, 10:39 PM   #10
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here are more pics of the back....as u can see, i kill the BACK hahah!






 
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Back is looking wide Imraan. :) Biceps look good too. Thanks for the pics and good luck with the cut or whatever you decide to do.

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Old 11-20-2005, 11:04 PM   #12
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ummmm.... ok..
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u should put some vitamin e on your stretch marks...that will help it go away...anyways u look great and keep up da good work....
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im not too impressed with my biceps at all....they are about 16 inches only. so Flex wht kind of a diet u think i can go into cuz i have never ever done on a cuting up diet since when i started i was only <130lbs so im sure it will be tough for me but i can do it. i guess i can get to a lean 165-160lbs then bulk up. it may take me up to jan to cut up then i can do winter bulking till the summer then cut back down. that does sound realistic if i can work for it, and i know i can but need a good diet plan.
Your biceps are good, but the lack of triceps is the reason for your 16 inch arms. Start off by telling us what your diet looks like now, then we can help you get on a good hard strict program.
 
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Don't worry about BF just eat allot of healthy protein(1.4-1.8 grams per kilo).
Split your workout into bodyparts and don't forget any one of them. Do them all hard and size will come. don't be a poser and do only your arms to impress the chicks. Your back and Bis are looking good now hit everthing else especially the chest.
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stretch marks all over, youre growing fast, good sign, but its time to stop bulking imo ...
 
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Superb back! Dropping a bit of BF will bring everything out a bit - probably look bigger by dropping some fat and bringing out some definition!
 
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Old 11-22-2005, 10:41 PM   #18
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Thanks a lot for the complements….took hard work for sure:
Here are the details of my diet and routine etc…

1st of I don’t have a good diet at all!
My meals are all different cuz I cant seem to eat the same stuff everyday. So everyday I eat different things.

NOTE: I have 6 egg white with 1 yolk every Tuesdays, Thurs, Sat and Sun only – because my classes start much later in the day so I have time to make it. On the other days (Mon, Wed, Fri) I take my oatmeal and eat it in class.
NOTE: Im in university so they have a café here where I have a meal plan. So I have one meal in school which is a so called ‘special’. They have different things every day. So I guess this is my cheat meal in a way.

Here is a sample of I ate on (Monday):


5g Glutamine and 1 tab (900mg) of Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin
2 packets of oatmeal

spaghetti with some ground beet with 6” garlic bread – School Special

buffalo chicken sandwich (contains 1 piece of chicken breast, with salad and tomatoes in a bun…just like a hamburger but it’s a chicken breast ) and tuna salad which I could not finish of yesterday night. The tuna salad has come celery with light cucumber dressing – nutrition info as follows:

FAT 5g
Carbs 1g
Protein:0.1g
Cals per 1tbsp – 50cals

GYM – chest day

Protein shake – contains malto/dextrose and 2 scoops of Whey protein and 5g L-Glutamine

Chicken curry which was cooked last night with some brown bread. (I had 4 pieces of the leg part of chicken)

Cottage cheese with 1 orange mixed with the cottage cheese.

2 slices brown bread with some peanut butter

Protein shake (in milk) with 5g Glutamine
1 tab (900mg) of Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin

Sleep

Tuesday

10:45 – 6 egg whites with 1 yolk
5g Glutamine
1 tab (900mg) of Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin
11:30 – 2 packets oatmeal

1:00PM Ľ cut chicken with roasted potatoes – School Special

2:15PM – chicken curry, 2 pieces of chicken legs with brown bread

GYM – triceps and biceps, calves and abs

1.5 cups cooked white rice with lean ground beef

tuna salad

Cottage cheese with 1 orange mixed with the cottage cheese .

Protein shake (in milk) with 5g Glutamine
1 tab (900mg) of Glucosamine Sulfate and Chondroitin
Sleep


As far as my training goes…I try to do 2 body parts per week. My splits are as follows:

Chest
Triceps and biceps
Legs
Back
Shoulders
OFF (usually on Thursdays)
repeat
 
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:03 PM   #19
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Flex, Pain Grumby...help me fix this up!
 
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Old 11-25-2005, 09:23 PM   #20
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hey guys.....havent gotten any replies...i really need input...so check meee !!!
 
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you look a lot more than 175. But anyways, I was much like you, I had a bloated gut due to bulking to fast and I just did a quick 5 week cycle to get my BF back in check now I am bulking very clean. good luck
 
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wht was ur diet like GMC when u went for the cut?
 
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The only advice I can give you is to make some minor adjustments. Make sure the oatmeal packets doesn't include any added sugar. Use natural peanut butter on your "brown" bread which I assume is whole grainy. Do your best to avoid any garbage in your school meals. Eating good is tough in college, but do the best you can.

Also, it seems like you're training an awful lot. I only train 2 days on and 1 day off (sometimes 3 days on 1 day off). If you are going 5 days on and 1 day off I would lighten it up a bit to prevent overtraining.
 
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well the problem with doing it 2 or 3 days on then 1 off is that i end up training each body part once a week. i should be training it twice a week. so can u help me out with the schedule or something
 
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ok i checked the oatmeal packs and theer are 5 flavours...well 4 since one is natural with only 1g of sugar. the other range from 16 to 11g sugar...so that is NOT good! any thoughts?
 
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ok i checked the oatmeal packs and theer are 5 flavours...well 4 since one is natural with only 1g of sugar. the other range from 16 to 11g sugar...so that is NOT good! any thoughts?
Is there any particular reason why you are using the packets?? Regular Oats, in the box or container have perfect nutrition facts. You can make those in the microwave as well(and or prepare ahead of time and keep it in the fridge) and add some zero calorie, zero sugar artificial sweetener if it must be sweetened.
 
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yea i dont like the taste of regular oatmeal at all....so i get the flavoured ones and they have this sugar which is bad. but i will change to the regular ones now and i will just add some honey to get the taste so i can eat it. i dont think honey is too bad, is it?
 
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just get regular oatmeal and add cinnamin, a banana or an apple.
 
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ya i should but some cinnamon powder and i could add that.
 
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Here is the Glycemic Index of several common sugars. You can see where Honey places on the list. Honey will still spike your blood sugar(and in turn your insulin) but it may be a slightly better choice than other sugars. Have you tried any sweeteners like Stevia? Its pretty sweet and does not contain a bunch of chemicals if thats what you are concerned about. Anyways, its not like Honey is going to kill you but its not the optimal choice if youre cutting.

SUGARS
Organic Agave Nectar 14
Fructose 32
Lactose 65
Honey 83
High fructose corn syrup 89
Sucrose 92
Glucose 137
Glucose tablets 146
Maltodextrin 150
Maltose 150
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