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Old 05-14-2008, 01:46 PM   #1
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Okay so I am trying to get big this summer for next baseball season, after seeing how big bonds got with the "cream and the clear" stacked with HGH I was in awe. Seeing as how this is the steriod forum I was wondering what exactly I should get that would give me the best results with the least amount of negative side affects.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:54 PM   #2
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Give us some more info.How long you been lifting seriously.how tall are you and whats your weight.IMO 20 is still a little young to start any kind of cycle.especially not knowing anything about gear.Do some research on the subject and learn as much as you can about it.
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:06 PM   #3
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have u done any research at all? do u know about sides or what to stack with what? or PCT?

If you have no idea of what any of that is and if u haven't done any research you need to start.

give us some more info. we'll be more than happy to steer you in the right direction!
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:46 PM   #4
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I have done research and was mad into all the bsn products and muscle asylum project. I was heavy into lifting and then started baseball and got out of it for a lil while. I am 5'10" and way 170, i was up to 185 for a while though
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:13 PM   #5
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Okay so im in the same situation as Irich Muscle, in fact we are on the same baseball team. im wanting to know how i can get bigger as well. im 6'4" and weigh 210lbs. i just want to get up to 235 240 with good muscle. can you help me out?
 
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Old 05-14-2008, 06:51 PM   #6
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NEITHER OF YOU NEED GEAR AT THE MOMENT!!!!!!

please read the above statement one more time........ i'll give you a second.......... okay now let's move on.


You need a good bulking diet and a good training regimen. I'm 5'2 and natty and Im almost at ur weight dude. With a good diet and training regimen you can achieve a great deal, all while researching gear to make sure that you know what you're doing before hand so that you don't mess urself up REALLY bad.
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Old 05-14-2008, 06:52 PM   #7
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:11 PM   #8
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This is not a steroid forum its a bb forum. Steroids aren't gonna make you throw faster or hit the ball. That's what you need to do to go pro not look like a bb.
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Okay so I am trying to get big this summer for next baseball season, after seeing how big bonds got with the "cream and the clear" stacked with HGH I was in awe. Seeing as how this is the steriod forum I was wondering what exactly I should get that would give me the best results with the least amount of negative side affects.
Well, you are a little to young. But the main thing here is that you havent been back into lifting that long and you are not at your genetic potential. Id try to get back to 5'10'' 185 at under 12%bf at the absolute minimum. I would commit your self to getting back to the gym on a good training program for at least six months naturally. If your main goal is strength look into some powerlifting routines such as the WSB ones, if your main goal is muscle mass/hypertrophy then research a good bodybuilding routine. I dont know anything about your diet but it probably could use work as well. 5-7+ meals of chicken breast, eggs/whites, lean red meat, whey and caesin, with oatmeal, brown rice, sweet potatoes, wheat bread (very sparingly), and dextrose or waxy maize post workout. BSN supps are good. Muscle Asylum is just Muscle Tech. Nothing wrong with them IMO just over priced and the marketing is annoying and very misleading. Make sure you have that stuff down before you consider any cycle, especially if you plan on starting it now which I dont recommend. If you want to run a cycle now then this is the basic first cycle:

Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mg/week or Test C 400mg/week
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
Weeks 1-12 Adex, Aromisin, Letro as needed (for me usually .25mg Adex EOD)
PCT 2 weeks after last inject
4-6 weeks Clomid at 50mg ED, Nolva at 40mg ED first 2 weeks

IMO 30 pounds is not realistic unless you plan on gaining a lot of fat. Although you are starting below your genetic potential so it is more feasable. 15-22 lbs. is more realistic and about 10lbs muscle.

And BTW, Victor Conte BALCO's owner says he never supplied Bonds with the Cream and the Clear. Patrick Arnold the inventor of those two steroids is the only one who claims that. Seeing as how they didnt test for gear up until 2003 (Im not that into baseball so my dates may be off here) and then it was only annonymous survey testing. So he would have no reason to use that stuff when he could use Test and deca, tren, eq, etc.
 
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:36 PM   #10
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this isn't bodybuilding guys, steroids in that sport is cheating
 
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:29 PM   #11
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Being a baseball player myself i would suggest eating and lifting. Your no where near old enough or big enough. And steroids wont help your athletic performance one bit. Get realalistic and practice your ass off. If you wanna throw harder work on your long toss. And if you wanna hit harder work your legs and ab's.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:49 AM   #12
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this isn't bodybuilding guys, steroids in that sport is cheating
why are you in here son?

Steroids are in ANY sport. If the MAJORITY uses them, how is it cheating?
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:24 AM   #13
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