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Old 07-09-2008, 07:35 PM   #31
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yes it will be good to have creatine
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:56 PM   #32
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This is a good mark, WE have made a second page for this thread.

It'd be pretty cool I think, if we were able to compile enough info on this thread to get it stickied or something.

Ok this was my menu today.

I must apologize for the first portion of it, I only got 4.5 hours of sleep last night.

6:45 A.M. 1 can of monster coffee energy drink + 1 Power Bar performance energy bar.

7:30 A.M. second can of monster energy drink.

9:30 A.M. 1/4 subway turkey sub with lettuce, bell peppers, onions, mustard, splash of vinegar + 8 oz orange gatorade.

11:00-11:30 A.M. lunch: 1/2 subway turkey sub + 16 oz of gatorade.

2:00 P.M. 1/4 turkey sub + 8 oz gatorade

5:00 P.M. Slice of meatloaf (deck of cards thick) 1/4 est macaroni & cheese.

32+oz of water throughout the day.

I felt like hell this morning, so I grabbed the energy drink thinking in old ways.

I'm going to the store for some groceries for two weeks. I'll post the list when I get back for critiquing.
 
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:04 PM   #33
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first you took in way to much sugars with the gatorades and monsters. gotta cut back, to either no gatorade or about 8oz post workout. second you didnt take in close to enough water, you should be takin in atleast 1 gallon a day. also not sure the mac and cheese is to good either.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:06 AM   #34
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first you took in way to much sugars with the gatorades and monsters. gotta cut back, to either no gatorade or about 8oz post workout. second you didnt take in close to enough water, you should be takin in atleast 1 gallon a day. also not sure the mac and cheese is to good either.
Yea, I know it was a horrible day. I just thought the gatorade would help me with work. I life 100+ lbs about 15-16 times a day because we don't have enough carts. I also do a lot of pulling and pushing with manual clamps, I have to manual bend the pipes they vary from 1/4"-2 5/8" the 5/8" pipes along I have to use a decent amount of effort. When I get a batch of pipe to bend, it's usually between 150-300 pieces. The shop stays a constant 85-90 degrees, but you're right if I'm going to drink something like that it should be that accelerade stuff, because at least that has protein added into it.

So I went to the store and realized I had know idea what to get, I did get the creatine though. I bought two spring mix salad kits, 140 cals per serving two servings per bag. I also got two cans of turkey chunks to put in there for the protein. I'm afraid that I'm going to get a bunch of stuff, and not put enough into my meals. I think my meals today were too small for the calorie ratio. I dunno, I'm just used to big meals i think lol.

I'm reading the label on this creatine, it says best if mixed with juice, or other high GI rated drink. so should I mix this into my gatorade?

I also have this weider exercise machine it's a cable and weight machine. it has eight plates, and one plate halfe the size attached to the cable. I think it's 90 lbs maybe. It has upright bench press, "the touching elbows press" (don't know that actual name lol), pull down bar close, and wide. the leg piece, and a rowing/ preacher curl bar also. I have an declined crunch bench the back can fold up or down, as far as I can tell your thighs stay against the seat part I dunno , I also have a bench outside with about 265 lbs of weights two weight bars, and a curvey looking bar available. These were all given to me today. what are some good things I can use them for right now?

I also start PT with my recruiter Saturday running that bridge I talked about.

Lets do this HOAH!
 
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:18 AM   #35
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you wanna try to do full body movements or compound movements to utilize as much muscle mass as possible. exercises such as squats/lunges, bench press, shoulder press, rows and the like. have a fiddle with the workout machine and see what u can come up with but use light weights to be safe. once u get the hang of it and the movements then u can worry about the weight.

with ur creatine, i prefer to have it with a glass of orange or apple juice but its personal preference really.

good luck bro, we are all here for you. be sure to keep us updated!
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:23 AM   #36
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you wanna try to do full body movements or compound movements to utilize as much muscle mass as possible. exercises such as squats/lunges, bench press, shoulder press, rows and the like. have a fiddle with the workout machine and see what u can come up with but use light weights to be safe. once u get the hang of it and the movements then u can worry about the weight.

with ur creatine, i prefer to have it with a glass of orange or apple juice but its personal preference really.

good luck bro, we are all here for you. be sure to keep us updated!
I'm afraid of squats, like I have a mental block of something. I can never do them because I'm unsure of my balance. like I'm afraid I'll get stuck and not be able to come back up, so I don't go far enough down. How can I get over it?
 
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:59 AM   #37
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I'm afraid of squats, like I have a mental block of something. I can never do them because I'm unsure of my balance. like I'm afraid I'll get stuck and not be able to come back up, so I don't go far enough down. How can I get over it?
Squats: Just use the bar, no weights on it for awhile. Get used to the form, with slow controlled lowering, controlled stop at the bottom, and pushing straight up from your legs (think like you're pushing your feet through the floor as hard as you can). Maybe watch some videos of people from this forum doing squats, I know Layne's (str8flexd) got some good videos of Front Squats -- or head to YouTube and watch a bunch. Watch the form though, as some people on there may not have great form. There's tons of resources to look at the correct form for any exercise online, just look around.

A good one to get you started would be grab a pair of dumbbells you can press over your head. Now raise them to pressing position at your shoulders, drop to a full squat, bring yourself immediately up from the squat and into the shoulder press. Smooth controlled movements the whole way.

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As with the diet comments above, you need to get rid of those Monsters and Gatorade. Loaded with sugar, which unless you're downing them after an intense workout are going to stay with you for awhile -- which is what we're working against here.

The monsters are 100cal per 8oz (16g of sugar and 350mg of sodium). Basic Gatorades are 50 cal per 8oz (14g of sugar and 110mg of sodium).

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Creatine -- great to add into your diet. Follow the directions, usually with a orange juice or cranberry juice or the like is good.

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Grab a water first thing in the morning. Not sure if your tap water is great or not, but I tend to pick up flat upon flat of bottled water here ($5 for 32 500ml bottles) as they are more convenient and easy to grab on the run. You may want to grab a couple liter water bottle and take that and have it with you at work if you're able to.

This will help to hydrate your body as you just spent all night burning water off and your body is going to be dehydrated. This will get your body functioning, kicking in your metabolism, loosening joints, aiding digestion, etc.

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What time of day do you plan on doing your workouts?

If you're planning for after work or on off days, I'm putting in the below as a wake-up to your days. This isn't your actual workout! Just a warm-up.


Recommendation:

+ Wake up, drink 500ml of water.

+ Stretch and do a light cardio workout.

+ Jog on the spot kicking your knees high for 4 minutes.

+ Jog on the spot keeping your knees down, lifting feet behind you for 4 minutes.

+ Jumping jacks, about 30 or so.

+ Stretch out your shoulders, legs and back. Slow controlled stretches -- don't make things crack and pop (your back in particular).

+ Do a few wide-arm pushups followed by some tricep pushups -- enough to warm up your muscles

+ Drink another 500ml of water.

+ Grab a quick shower, and some breakfast (in that order).

Give your body 15 - 30 minutes to absorb the water, as it can dilute your digestive enzymes in your stomach and inhibit digestion if you eat immediately after drinking a lot of water.

Head to work! The above shouldn't be enough to tire you out, just enough to get blood pumping and maybe break a light sweat. You need energy for your work day.

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We are at opposite ends of the spectrum -- I am an Ecto/Meso body type. I'm slender as hell, and it's hard to put on weight.

The similarity, regardless of body type though, is that we both need to eat a lot of meals through the day to balance our metabolism and keep our energy levels up.

Plan your lunches to fit into 3 small meals (assuming you have 2 x 15 minute and 1 x 30 minute break).

I prepare large batches of Stirfrys, Wild Rice, and Chicken Breasts weekly. Basic stirfry which I often eat on my shorter breaks is strips of lean beef, and green beans. I add a lot of rice to fill in the calories I need. You won't need as much of the rice, as you want to create a slight calorie deficit. Think, enough beef to cover the palm of your hand, enough beans to cover your entire hand, and 1/2 cup or so of rice. Another 500ml of water at the end of your break.

Lunch I would go with 2 chicken breasts, a salad (no creamy dressing, get a vinaigrette dressing made with Olive Oil), and a piece of fruit. Another 500ml of water with your food / at end of break.

Your last break, have another light meal. Some granola bars (not sugar or chocolate coated or the like), a piece of fruit and some more water.

Do another light (10 minute) cardio workout when you get home and take a quick 5 minute shower if you need to. If you can bike, walk or jog to work, all the better. Any added cardio will aid you in your goals.

Ideally you would like to look at 40 - 80 minutes of walking each day until you reach your weight loss goal, and then change your focus to building muscle at that time.

It is physiologically impossible to effectively gain size (muscle) and lose fat at the same time!

Meaning, to lose weight you need to create a calorie deficit ( -500 calories or so) and to put on lean muscle mass you need to eat more calories ( +500 calories or so).

All of us here have two goals:

1) Lose fat (cutting); dropping our Body Fat % to a level we are comfortable with, and by doing so dropping unwanted pounds.

2) Gain muscle mass (bulking); raising our protein and carb intakes, and focusing our workouts to target specific muscles for size and endurance gains while monitoring our Body Fat levels.

You will get your best results in both categories if you focus on one at a time.

What can happen for you though is while you are working on losing weight you can build some base muscles, and get your body used to meeting the correct form you need for heavier weights once you've reached a lower healthy weight you're happy with and can then focus on gaining muscle mass.

You WILL build muscle when you move any amount of weight -- and those muscles will burn calories, so workout with that bench and the free weights by all means, just keep the weight to something you can do 10 - 12 repetitions with and 4 - 5 sets to focus on burning calories and building lean muscles right now.

Any questions just ask, I'm checking this thread a few times a day at this point. For now -- sleep for me, work starts in 7 hours -- good thing it's my "Friday" tomorrow.

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Old 07-10-2008, 03:24 AM   #38
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:40 AM   #39
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:12 AM   #40
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seems liek Spencers got you headed down the right path bro....just keep eating man...I know at first it sounds dumb to eat more times a day when your trying to lose fat but its just how it is. I am trying to explain that to my overweight dad at the moment. He thinks its stupid to eat so much...oh well....

Try to cut back to little or no simple sugars man, cause its gonna go right to your gut.

If your lacking energy eat more non-sugary carbs liek rice and oatmeal, try adding a serving of either to most of your meals. At first I guess its gross to think about eating oatmeal with beef patties...lol but it helps your energy levels stay up. Also maybe try a fat burner pill...there reletivly inexpensive. If you take 2 before work and maybe 2 more halfway through your work day you shoudl avoid crashing out on the job and keep a good energy level. Adjust your carbs to your energy level. Its kinda different than the stock macro for cutting but I've found its all about trying what works for you when it comes to carb counting.....i try to go with the minimum I need to sustain me through the day. I can get by with eating a few more than normal someitmes cause I do liek 1.5-2 hrs of cardio a day now.

But i liek the way they got you hook up. You said you were waiting to get into heavy training or soemthing, or soemthing about max weights....just go to the training section and ask everyone to help you make a split. just start off at very low weight on all body parts. You'll find your max sooner or later. You;ll also find that finding your max doesn;t always matter,its all about working the muscle. its not really how much weight you lift always, sometimes you can work the muscle harder just by changing rep ranges and stuff leik that. If I were you I'd try training 5 days a week taking wednesday and sunday off to start. try doing something like chest on mon,Legs on tue, shoulders on thur,arms on fri,and back on sat. Just an idea man. Do liek 3 sets of 10-12 to start. Very light weight so you don;t overtrain and end up in the hospital.Too many people just starting out are always liek I'm 200 pounds I should be able to bench 200lbs. And even if they do get it up your gonna have 200 pounds sitting on your chest real fast cause your body isn't capable of it if you've never lifted before you know


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Old 07-10-2008, 08:25 PM   #41
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Yea, I went with no sugar today except for the sugar in the two powerbars I had. My energy level crashed about noon time pretty bad, I felt like I had gone weeks without sleep or something. I'm going to have to stock up on raisins for energy boosts during the day.

I've been trying to figure it out in my head when to start working out. I'm going to have it officially decided upon on Sat. I'm going running with my recruiter. So far though I was thinking about doing it on my days off only which is 1 day during the week and on the weekends. I work 10 hours a day right now HOPEFULLY they'll stop that nonsense. but that 5 day of week small routine sounds good.
 
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:51 PM   #42