2005 Mr.Olympia Discussion

pickle · 10-16-2005, 01:32 AM

can we have a full look at placings first to last? how did fedrov go?

Flex · 10-16-2005, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Delts

anyone got the final placings for all competitors yet?

Not sure of all the results, but here is the top 10...

1. Ronnie Coleman
2. Cutler
3. Gustavo
4. Gunter
5. Martinez
6. Dennis James
7. Melvin Anthony
8. Branch Warren
9. Charles
10. Muhammid

pickle · 10-16-2005, 01:40 AM

i bet corimier is spewin over not being in top 10

deadman315x · 10-16-2005, 01:42 AM

ronnie looked so scared when they were announcing 2nd place. he thought he might actually lose. last year he was much more confident at the end

Diesel · 10-16-2005, 01:43 AM

i think he was liek that b/c of all the hype that was put into jay winning

Diesel · 10-16-2005, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pickle

i bet corimier is spewin over not being in top 10

he didnt deserve top 10. he didnt even deserve to be there. his routine was a joke and it looked pretty obvious that he didnt take his conditioning too serious either

Diesel · 10-16-2005, 01:49 AM

did anyone see that guy that tried to bench 1015. didnt look too good from what i could see. guessin he broke a few ribs on that one

The Adam · 10-16-2005, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by deadman315x

ronnie looked so scared when they were announcing 2nd place. he thought he might actually lose. last year he was much more confident at the end

Not to mention being beat by Gustavo in the challenge round! I would be a little nervous too, I mean wtf?! Somebody at that show loves the freakin' 'rican.

And imagine Jay? being beat by Gustavo!? I would feel. :owned:

**fahad** · 10-16-2005, 02:16 AM

hey didnt everybody forgot about alexander fedrove...

Diesel · 10-16-2005, 02:27 AM

and what about Dexters big announcement?

serbmarko · 10-16-2005, 02:31 AM

Federov? lmao.. he looked like total dump.. i mean.. it woudnt surprise me if he announced that he did the show natural.. man he looked bad..

serbmarko · 10-16-2005, 02:32 AM

Federov got last probably.. wouldnt surprise me.. welcome to the big time baby..

kevinbgoode · 10-16-2005, 02:36 AM

Well first...big props for hdogg for taking all this time to keep us informed - ya had us on the edge of our seats and there's a big TY for keeping us in the loop tonight. . .

But shoot. . .I'll give props to Big Ron, but. . .this show sounded a little cheesy from what ya'll are saying. . .I don't blame Cutler for his feelings right now. . .second in the world isn't anything to sneer at, but he's tried four times now and he's gotta wonder. I know Ron comes in on fire, but it does seem like it is so rare for a reigning champ to lose that you have to be a whole lot better to take the crown.

LoudHoward · 10-16-2005, 02:48 AM

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Jay is the sorest loser ever. I hope he doesnt compete ever again. He cant outdo coleman and then he goes and has a sook. I thought he was supposed to be a nice guy and everything good about bodybuilding in reality he has the most disgusting attitude ever

I've never heard such bull**** in my life. Ronnie's attitude stinks - the most disgusting sportsman I have ever come across. This is exactly why I don't support him. All those comments about 'Jay's Crackpipe' aren't funny. I don't understand it, why the **** does everyone eat up the **** spewing out of his mouth?

Also, who the hell are you to judge? How the hell would you know what it feels like to lose a competition like that after you spent a year preparing and firmly believed that you could win?

pickle · 10-16-2005, 02:55 AM

im just a guy who knows that sooking doesnt get anything done. sure u could cry 1000 tears like you or jay cutler everytime you lose it isnt going to change the result. Its just a sore loser. Something you Are trying to defend. Yes lets teach everyone who doesnt win to diss what they do. But then theres the option of being humble in defeat and coming back next year. Like say I dont know ANY OTHER COMPETITOR THAT ISN'T JAY CUTLER.

Jay cutler 1 year preparing for the o? he's wanted to win it since hes been training. Working for a goal all his life and then he disses what hes wanted all his life cause he lost. :spankit:

terrible terrible
and then you go off with profanity because im dissing your lover.
Ur avatar does u justice Loud howard

Greg Kovacs> Cutler

LoudHoward · 10-16-2005, 03:01 AM

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im just a guy who knows that sooking doesnt get anything done. sure u could cry 1000 tears like you or jay cutler everytime you lose it isnt going to change the result. Its just a sore loser. Something you Are trying to defend. Yes lets teach everyone who doesnt win to diss what they do. But then theres the option of being humble in defeat and coming back next year. Like say I dont know ANY OTHER COMPETITOR THAT ISN'T JAY CUTLER. Ur avatar does u justice Loud howard

First off, I won't take any comments on my intelligence seriously from someone who can't even type coherently.

Secondly, Ronnie isn't humble in victory, which is much easier to do than be humble in defeat. Ronnie's attitude stinks, he's a smug prick that always does his best to rub it into everyone else. Sure, there are tons of other competitors like that, but Jay isn't one of them.

pickle · 10-16-2005, 03:19 AM

haha ur a internet troll with tall poppy syndrome. Dont diss the best it doesnt achieve anything and it especially wont bring up the status of your lover,jay cutler.

You put the sook back in popsookle

LOLOL ***

shahabkalim · 10-16-2005, 04:12 AM

hdogg345, thnx bro...

i m happy for mustafa.. a real hardworking guy ..next year he should be at #3..
Cutler should take a couple of years off and come back when ronnie leaves the stage..
Cutler rules but then ronnie is a beast...

jornT · 10-16-2005, 04:39 AM

Plz STFU about Jay! Jay is a whiner .... Jay is ....
Yes I'm Jay fan so my opinion is probably a little biased, but yours is so perhaps even 10 times more! He doesn't whine, you guys just thinks, yeah Ronnie won, yeah my favorite, so cool! If you don't admit that being teh current mr O gives you a 10% headstart at next years O, your just not being honest. Give the damn prize to the best man, and not to the man who archievt the most in previous years! I admit, Ronnie looked super, just liked Jay better, but thats my opinion. But just wanne let you know, Jay isn't a whiner, you guys are. You guys have no idea how he feels right now, Losing a couple years in a row totally screws your mind, wokring your bud of every day, and even more if you believe you are the better man. So be happy for Ronnie, I'm cool with that, but STFU 'bout Jay.

Zaytser · 10-16-2005, 05:12 AM

Guys what is the point of all this smack talking. The outcome is the same regardless. I will say this. I was not impressed by either man at the show. I like Jays form better last year. The thickness is his back was not there. Yes he was detailed, but that has to do with getting his skin paper thin and not so much to do with thickness,because his lower back was non existant in the back double bi and only could be seen in the pose with the elbows back showing off the christmas tree.

Now as I said I wasn't as impressed with Ronnie either, but he looked a lot better on TV than in the pics this morning. I was happy he controlled his waist and managed to show a lot more detail in his legs than in the morning. But one of his calfs were atrophied possible both, and one of his triceps was atrophied. Also his lower back and overall back wasn't as thick.

So whatever Jay and Ronnie do next year if they do in fact decide to compete again, I hope they keep there size and try to keep there mid sections as tight as reasonably possible because they both look a lot better at those weights rather than loosing all that muscle that they gained in the offseason.

Peace.

TheGame · 10-16-2005, 05:13 AM

pickle - stop the name calling please..

and i really wanted and thought jay would win..i dont blame him for him comments, i feel the same way

Ironslave · 10-16-2005, 08:52 AM

You're welcome everybody for the updates.

& Guys, please keep the discussion clean.

Nothin' but a peanut!! · 10-16-2005, 10:05 AM

hdogg 345 thanks alot for all the posts keeping us informed really cool of you. and as for the whole ronnie jay thing...lol everybodys got their opinion so i may as well spill mine too! Ronnie won Jay came second. did seem like there was not a clean outcome with all the politics and **** but hey thats the way it is. jay wasting a year of his life? hes the second best bodybuilder in the world i wish i had the opportunity to take a year off and spend my time training eating and sleeping! but he still lost so thats it. but as a coleman fan MAN ja has improved HEAPS from the last olympia he really did look good tonight and as for the gut rule, ronnie looked alot better than last year but to me cutler was the one who had a gut this time around! not his usual abs thats for sure. ure he should be upset that he lost i mean its always upsetting when ur not the winner and **** but god his back has gotten alot better then i ever thought it would so he shouldnt be disapointed. cant wait to see pics of everyone tho

french mass · 10-16-2005, 11:42 AM

Firstable we can say that this years the competitor was in a very good shape ,we saw a lot of improvement for a lot of bodybuilder in the abs section and conditioning.So big hand for everybody and for the EXELENT PRESTATION OF THE ATHELTE.

The deception: RHUL who cracked top 5 last year and was 15 tonight in a very bad shape ,DENNIS JAMES look perfect 2 day out on the pic that we saw (like usual if i can say )and very far of we had saw tonight,FEDEROV for is his first show but came very far of his true potential and CHRIS CORMIER who can ask question for the end of his career about the MR OLYMPIA competion or he never appear great.

BIG improvement : GUNTER definitively was very good i think even better than in 2002 ,but just with bigger legs it coul be very dangerous for the head of the competition and will menace RONNIE and jay ,VICTOR MARTINEZ who cracked top 5 for his 2ND mister olympia and come now for a real favourite for the next MO in the few year ,GUSTAVO who confirm that he's now a very dangerous pretendant too for the title in the futur ,and a special bravo of the very good condition of BRANCH WARREN ,JOHNNIE O JACKSON and MUSTAPHA MOHAMED.

THE FIGHT BETWEEN RONNIE AND JAY : Jay was in the really really good condition maybe best ever ,his back has made a really improvement with wider and thikness and particulary in the lower area ,legs was amazing too with a very good separation and mass ,and overall conditionnig on the top at around 260 i guess .
RONNIE come lighter than the 2 last olympia at around 270 ,who make him a more aestetic look ,his abs was flat and more deeply than usual ,the upper body was very dry ,his chest and back seems lost some size but comparaly to the 2 other MO it's normal for his weight ,his quads seems lost some size too and looks less dryer than the upper body ,but the glutes and hams are still the best ,his calves are still a point if you look at them of jay who are one of the best of the sport.
I think RONNIE deserve his 8th victory ,but i can understand JAY sad because he was in the shape of his life but not enought to beat RONNIE again , i think the overall conditioning was for JAY but the best package was for RONNIE . The genetic of RONNIE and all the workout he made for all the last 10 years are payed for this show ,and make this little diference between JAY and RONNIE now because they are very closed on this show.

THE FUTUR : we can hope than RONNIE come back again one more year and JAY will continue his MR O participation because he 's the real chalenger of RONNIE , we saw a great fight tonight who give a very interesting show.But the chalenge round is a joke and the organisator have to think to find something new .

Blond Bomber · 10-16-2005, 03:26 PM

Good analyse, someone's really gotta upload the screwups in the challangeround.

SDEWITT · 10-17-2005, 02:57 AM

MY GOD, soooo many technical diffaculties during this Olympia, ridiculous.
They ****ed up in the challenge round about 4 times.

b_sinning · 10-17-2005, 02:50 PM

I haven't heard any competor that liked the challenge round the first year so they redid it some for this year and it sounds even worse. They need to just give it up.

Who won the wild card seat? I didn't see that anywhere.

Ronnie looks almost dead in the face. I think he maxed himself out this year and I doubt with his age that he can pull off another year without doing some permant damage. He's a beast with great genetics and his stomach look the best it has in years but to show up and stay that dry for that long can't be good for your health.

Was there anyone that needed medical assistant afterwards like in the pevious years?

Jay's regretting not getting that Arnold check now.

Unless the Olympia starts not giving the previous winner the advantage starting off then people are going to start looking to the Arnold or one of the other events to be the number 1 event of the year. And Weilder won't like that.

pickle · 10-17-2005, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by b_sinning

Unless the Olympia starts not giving the previous winner the advantage starting off then people are going to start looking to the Arnold or one of the other events to be the number 1 event of the year. And Weilder won't like that.

Ronnie was the best of the show... noone matched him for size except cutler and cutler brought a baby along with him (distended stomach) and (then sooked like a baby afterwards). I wish people would quit the BS... He wins because he is consistently the best bodybuilder on show. Not because he won the year befor and the arnold is no more unfair or fair then the olympia Jay has typically been the best at that show and he won a few in a row because he was the best. Not because he won the year befor. Tall poppy syndrome will be the death of bodybuilding.

houssin · 10-29-2005, 11:32 AM

jay is always the best