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Old 10-14-2005, 07:27 AM   #61
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You are very young and very naive! I guess some fellars just have to learn the hard way! Good luck with your bodybulding endeavours what ever path you choose. For your sake I hope your right!
You're the naive one here, and I wish YOU the best of luck in your endeavors as you're not going to get very far in the bodybuilding world all natural.
 
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:12 AM   #62
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Hey Inclinebenchpress, answer me this than. Is living the bodybuilding lifestyle healthy even if you are natural? Like I said I have never used drugs before, but to say that the bodybuilding lifestyle without drugs is perfectly healthy is still debatable. Eating tons of protein, which may of may not be hard on your kidneys. Cutting up for a show a couple times a year until one is about to pass out and drying out which is also hard on your kidneys. So please enlighten me about how you are so much more wize than me. I have never gone down the road of use or abuse, so Why do you say good luck with my life and my choice, I just told you like a thousand times I am natural. You think because your chest is 50" and you have 17" arms naturally you are truly better than all of us so called idiots. I know guys in highschool that never touched a dumbell in there life that had bigger arms than yours, so try to keep from cutting us down all time.

Oh yah you didn't answer my question about how steroids are safe for sick people and not for healthy ones. Not only AIDs patients, but burn victoms as well. Your fellow competitors do not speak for the millions that have used steroids safely throughout their lifetime with little side effects so why even point that out to me. One things for sure, if your fellow competitors are suffering that bad, they either have no idea what they are doing or they are throwing caution into the wind. If they are doing harm to their bodies they should stop using the excuse they love the sport and will do anything at any cost, and should take your advise and quit.

I am not trying to cut you down, I am pointing out the fact that you do not know everthing, especially that Barry Bonds will die prematuraly. Nor do I know everything, but I do know that I must keep an open mind and look at all the facts.
 
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:20 AM   #63
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What i think is funny is the fact that inclinepress keeps preaching the negatives of steroids but if you look in his profile is diet consits of junk and protein. LMFAO
 
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:21 AM   #64
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Hey Inclinebenchpress, answer me this than. Is living the bodybuilding lifestyle healthy even if you are natural? Like I said I have never used drugs before, but to say that the bodybuilding lifestyle without drugs is perfectly healthy is still debatable. Eating tons of protein, which may of may not be hard on your kidneys. Cutting up for a show a couple times a year until one is about to pass out and drying out which is also hard on your kidneys. So please enlighten me about how you are so much more wize than me. I have never gone down the road of use or abuse, so Why do you say good luck with my life and my choice, I just told you like a thousand times I am natural. You think because your chest is 50" and you have 17" arms naturally you are truly better than all of us so called idiots. I know guys in highschool that never touched a dumbell in there life that had bigger arms than yours, so try to keep from cutting us down all time.

Oh yah you didn't answer my question about how steroids are safe for sick people and not for healthy ones. Not only AIDs patients, but burn victoms as well. Your fellow competitors do not speak for the millions that have used steroids safely throughout their lifetime with little side effects so why even point that out to me. One things for sure, if your fellow competitors are suffering that bad, they either have no idea what they are doing or they are throwing caution into the wind. If they are doing harm to their bodies they should stop using the excuse they love the sport and will do anything at any cost, and should take your advise and quit.

I am not trying to cut you down, I am pointing out the fact that you do not know everthing, especially that Barry Bonds will die prematuraly. Nor do I know everything, but I do know that I must keep an open mind and look at all the facts.
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Pre contest you are correct, however those severe circumstances last 1 week out of the year. Bodybuilding is absolutely a healthy lifestyle. Sure, there are those who do many questionable activities, such as steroids (however in some cases, steroids can be helpful for health in beyond middle age men if taken correctly). However, the supplements i take are absolutely related to a healthy lifestyle. Besides bodybuilders, how many people religiously take fish oils, which are absoluely limitless in their health benefits. I also take olive oil, multi vitamin, eat a shit load of spinach and vegetables loaded with anti-oxidants, glutamine which is awesome for the immune system, etc. No supplements i take are in any way harmful to my health, they are all part of a healthy diet. Not only this, but my diet is infinate times healthier then the average person. I dont pig out on fast food like the average person, i keep my carbs low GI and all sources of protein are extra lean.
this quote from HDogg

also read this article :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne38.htm
 
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:28 AM   #65
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lolol sif use drugs... when u can be all... Hey my body its not 60 inches around the chest i dont have 24 inch arms but u know i made that 30 inch chest mark and i have 10 inch arms on my 34 inch waist and i did it all natural baby!

But seriously... off topic... serge nubret claims he never took drugs.. who believes him? I do what a gun!



Randomness aside

Bodybuilding and steroids is iffy. Pumping iron (fellow member) taught me a lesson about this debate. that I cant think less of someone who uses drugs. (im natural) Its all about the competetion baby. He hit a back double biceps and I hit one and then He swept me off the stage. It was magic. I was silenced he won. Drugs are everywhere... Incline bench remember our aussie cycling athletes going into athens 5 of them were on the gear. It sux but its everywhere and drugs will never be out of sport. Soon it will be genetics in sport. Where everyone will have the modified genes of coleman and then only training and nutrition will seperate us... Oh what a world. drugs or no drugs body building will always have a drug taking image so will a lot of sports in the end tho we are all competitors ready to enjoy booya!

In the interest of healthier practices I should stop talking so much fish oil my omega 3s in my brain are making me too happy and Im writing long rants that dont make any sense or even have a purpose.
 
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Old 10-14-2005, 12:18 PM   #66
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As for the Athletes names you like to throw around as Roid users before you accuse anyone make sure you get clarification from them. Just because you win an event or have success in sport does not = roids!

If any Mr Olympia (or any athlete) were to come out that he was using peformance enhansing drugs it would be front page news. (As it was when Arnold said he was on roids)

All you are doing is repeating here say from boards! Which is shit!

PS Do you honestly think that Dorian, Ronnie, Haney would be happy with you accusing them as being drug cheats.
ok that e-mail was from Dorians website you fuck. get your head out of your ass and realize that athletes take steroids. yea im sure ronnie doesnt take steroids...you can weight 280ibs w/ a 2% bodyfat anyday, drug free
 
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Old 10-14-2005, 12:20 PM   #67
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inclinebenchpress click here http://dorianyates.net/ask.html

scroll down to where it says A Personal Choice
 
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Old 10-14-2005, 12:27 PM   #68
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I have a hard time believing the guys that are in the O are not doing steriods. All of them have trained for so long and hard that it must be incredible hard to continue growing without some serious help.
 
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Old 10-14-2005, 07:53 PM   #69
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I will say it again you are a hypocrite Diesel as you are so pig headed in trying to get every one to believe that all Bodybuilders are on roids. Good to see that you emailed Dorian. As you said it is a personal choice if Dorian admits to using roids. (he is talking about himself) you cannot tarnish ronnie with the same brush. And wait a minute he recommended you not to use them! Yet you still won't listen. So it is you who is a stupid fuck because someone like Dorian has told you not to use them and you never asked WHY?
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:00 AM   #70
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A Personal Choice

Name: Niklas Andersson
location: Sweden
Question: Hallo dorian, how are you. I most say that you are the best
bodybuilders ever.... but I have a question, did you use drugs? I dont say you did but I wanna now if it is possible to be so big with out it.... I
hope you write back... have a good day.

Hi Niklas,
To compete sucessfully at a pro level in any sport you have to do everything you can to maximise your potential. Anabolics have been used in bodybuilding and many other sports for decades because of the advantages they give in terms of recovery,size, strength, so yes I have used steriods but this was a personal choice and not something I would reccomend. You can build a great physique without anabolics but I dont beleive that you could be competative at the highest level not only in bodybuilding but many other sports.
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:07 AM   #71
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Drug Testing Procedure as taken from the IFBB Handbook...

Judge: Do you take steroids?
Ronnie: No, they're bad for you.
Judge: Good enough for me.
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:12 AM   #72
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You think you know so much about steroids and you want information on what happens to people who are on them go here http://www.taylorhooton.org/toddganci.asp

* Arnold was no champ he is a chump! And he isn't unbeatable chet Yorton beat Arnold and he was all Natural!

* Cheating in sports is still cheating no matter which way you cut it! (and that means peforming enhancing drugs)
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:24 AM   #73
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You think you know so much about steroids and you want information on what happens to people who are on them go here http://www.taylorhooton.org/toddganci.asp

* Arnold was no champ he is a chump! And he isn't unbeatable chet Yorton beat Arnold and he was all Natural!

* Cheating in sports is still cheating no matter which way you cut it! (and that means peforming enhancing drugs)
But that's the truth, all Professional Bodybuilders have used and use steroids at some point in their life. Just because some say that they don't take it doesn't mean they don't, they're protecting their image. Even if steroids are bad for