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Old 05-24-2006, 05:32 PM   #31
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And Phill Heath isnt?
Please tell me you're not comparing Heath to Fedorov.

Thats like comparing apples and mashed up dog poop.

 
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Old 05-24-2006, 05:33 PM   #32
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And Phill Heath isnt?


Federov: hype, haven't proven himself even once

Heath, won every damn show he entered (and is still very young)
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 05:50 PM   #33
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are you talking about?
He's a hometown boy too. Let him compete on a british stage and I bet James Lewellyn, Ernie Taylor and Mike Sherridan and would place ahead of him.






 
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Old 05-24-2006, 05:55 PM   #34
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He's a hometown boy too. Let him compete on a british stage and I bet James Lewellyn, Ernie Taylor and Mike Sherridan and would place ahead of him.
Which proves my point. Do you honestly believe these guys deserve to place above Heath?
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 05:57 PM   #35
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He's a hometown boy too. Let him compete on a british stage and I bet James Lewellyn, Ernie Taylor and Mike Sherridan and would place ahead of him.
You're wrong



EDIT: I'll go a step further and say this; if you try to come up with a better case for Heath winning only because he's on an American stage I will gladly post several comparisons of each of the athletes you mentioned in their primes with Heath and point exactly why you're wrong and why I know more about judging bodybuilding than you.

...just walk away
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 06:38 PM   #36
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You're wrong



EDIT: I will gladly post several comparisons of each of the athletes you mentioned in their primes with Heath and point exactly why you're wrong
You do that. If you dont I will.
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 06:52 PM   #37
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The point is Fedorov Pec is still healing. He is out of shape, because he cannot train chest correctly. Imagine that a torn pec is a powerful and diffcult problem to deal with. Well Something happened with Phill Heat Fast Arriving, in this sport STEROIDS ARE A FACT AND A TOOL FOR COMPETING, Fedorov consumed them too because of his tiny Testicles ( I am not a GAY just for checking there but this is notorious when someone is using heavy amounts of steroids. Well Phil Heat is improved and he gained weight quickly in a period of two years. Congratulations Heat your steroids, your diet and your discipline will help you winning more titles, but the Fedorov case is complicated he must rest if he wants to compete and hit the persons who criticized him he must rest and repair his pec that is improved but for strength and definition he must REST. As I said he must follow Kevin Levrone, Dorian Yates (The Gut And bloated stomach bodybuilder) And Markus Ruhl when they were out of competition.


Personally I love European Bodybuilding and Weightlifting, in this part of the world they have more discipline than U.S.A-Canada (Americans???) and great improvements. I thought Alexander Fedorov would be the same as Markus Ruhl but Markus is still controlling Europe and maybe America with his monstrous frame.
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 08:02 PM   #38
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federov is a beast.
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:15 PM   #39
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First note: I could not find enough pictures of the first BBer you mentioned and although he looks impressive I cannot do a full comparison, though I can spot "weak" areas on him as is. I am using the term "weak" very relatively because he still looks great but is missing some key components that Heath has; that's all.

Onward: Here are as many comparison pics as I could find amongst the three athletes because pictures of Sheridan (and especially Taylor) were very hard to come by. For each athlete I measured a common place on their body to the top of their head and scaled all pictures of the athletes to the same size, which works well because there is only an inch difference in height between Taylor and Heath. Sheridan is actually the shortest of the athletes but I scaled him as if he were the same height so in these pictures he's actually appearing slightly larger than in real life.

Objective: Everyone, not just Heavy D, is welcome to compare/contrast the athletes that supposedly would beat Phil on an English stage (even though Ernie is retired). Sorry for the quality of the pics but due to the resizing for accurate proportion some graininess had to occur.


 
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:55 AM   #40
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First note: I could not find enough pictures of the first BBer you mentioned and although he looks impressive I cannot do a full comparison, though I can spot "weak" areas on him as is. I am using the term "weak" very relatively because he still looks great but is missing some key components that Heath has; that's all.

Onward: Here are as many comparison pics as I could find amongst the three athletes because pictures of Sheridan (and especially Taylor) were very hard to come by. For each athlete I measured a common place on their body to the top of their head and scaled all pictures of the athletes to the same size, which works well because there is only an inch difference in height between Taylor and Heath. Sheridan is actually the shortest of the athletes but I scaled him as if he were the same height so in these pictures he's actually appearing slightly larger than in real life.

Objective: Everyone, not just Heavy D, is welcome to compare/contrast the athletes that supposedly would beat Phil on an English stage (even though Ernie is retired). Sorry for the quality of the pics but due to the resizing for accurate proportion some graininess had to occur.


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Old 05-25-2006, 07:15 AM   #41
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dang...linesky...remind me never to get in an argument with you...well at least one in wich we can find tangible arguments. IMHO...ernie taylor is damn close to Phil...but i am nowhere near a pro BB judge
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Old 05-25-2006, 09:51 AM   #42
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dang...linesky...remind me never to get in an argument with you...well at least one in wich we can find tangible arguments. IMHO...ernie taylor is damn close to Phil...but i am nowhere near a pro BB judge
LOL thanks bro. I have no problem admitting that Ernie Taylor looks good here which is why I searched as much as I could to find what I felt was his all-time best condition. For awhile he was missing his peak and not coming in very sharp and his triceps, synthol or not, were out of control. Nonetheless, it's a little sad he had to retire because around 2003 it looked like he was finally making the improvements to win shows. In fact, he probably could've even beaten Jay in the two GP shows where he finished second to him

Still, I feel that Phil takes more of the poses than either athlete and has better overall detail, condition, and shape. Some could argue for Ernie Taylor and that's fine, but to say Phil only wins because he's on an American stage is pretty ignorant.
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:19 AM   #43
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Pictures probably dont do justice to Phill, i talked to some guy who actually was at the colorado pro show and he told me phill was insanly ripped to the bone.. on pictures u cant see the transition of poses and how the bber is looking when he's relaxed (really relaxed).
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