[Freak]

Good advice on starting a log. Your weight loss will not be linear. That is fine that you did not lose any weight that week, give your body time to adjust and stick with it. Stay positive, you can do it keep pushing forward!

[asha]

Welcome to the Dungeon for starters :)
You seem extremely dedicated for a start and reading all your posts was actually quite inspirational :). After reading All of your above posts, I dont think i read if you snacked at all? If not, What do you eat in between meals etc. Perhaps add something small and insignificant in the day that increase your energy levels to keep you going throughout the day then in the long run will get you out and about exercising. Obviously as you've already stated you joints are a major issue contributing to your exercise rates and with the excess weight on your shoulders Wont really help, BUT!. As most of the Dungeon have already come up with something ill try and have a say :). Just start slowly , finding your limits as for the exercise part, Try and find a stable rate where you can work off X number of calories before your joint pain returns and then work from that. What exercises have you been doing to burn it off, out of curiosity.
Wishing you all the best With it Mate, I'm Sure that you will get the results you want and you can start a healthier more active lifestyle :) Go get em!
Ash

[5211]

i can't believe you guys told her to go on the akins diet... so bad...

sure she'll lose weight in the short term but does any of you know the rebound rate of that diet in the long term as in 2 - 3 months later??

all the subjects is more than likely to gain the weight and more

god.. u can't just apply ur shit to this poor girl..

going into ketosis = starving urself... the difference between between that and having high protein in her food is that she doesn't break down her muscles for the protein as much

problem with that is .. she's store more fat when she starts to eat again and u'll effectively would have slowed down her metabolism even more

[JakeVendetta]

I cant view the first page but if i remember correctly she was going to do a variation of the traditional ketogenic diet where you have 36 hour refeeds weekly to keep hormones in balance, and replenish glycogen stores. I'm sure there is still some flaw in this theory though :-/

[5211]

if ketosis diets work then diabetics all over the world would be on em

no carbs = no risk ...

and so would all the worlds obese/overweight population.

research have found over and over again that akins diets of super low carbs and high problem produce results in the short term

but long term the participants always gain back the weight + more. reason why it went out of fashion

it's ok if body builders use em cause they want the effects short term (not considering all the other risk factors)

but to tell an person who is trying to lose weight and keep it that way is just setting them up for failour

because there is no way she can keep that diet and the moment she goes off.. back the weight it comes and down goes her motivation.

[under construction]

that has been said about all diets since time began^^^

[JakeVendetta]

Originally Posted by 5211

if ketosis diets work then diabetics all over the world would be on em

no carbs = no risk ...

and so would all the worlds obese/overweight population.

research have found over and over again that akins diets of super low carbs and high problem produce results in the short term

but long term the participants always gain back the weight + more. reason why it went out of fashion

it's ok if body builders use em cause they want the effects short term (not considering all the other risk factors)

but to tell an person who is trying to lose weight and keep it that way is just setting them up for failour

because there is no way she can keep that diet and the moment she goes off.. back the weight it comes and down goes her motivation.

1. this is not an atkins diet, its a cyclic ketogenic diet, unlike atkins you still have carbs. Just for 36 hours of the week, generally speaking.

2. We have to ask ourselves, why do so many gain this weight back. Is the diet to blame or the persons lifestyle choices.

3. You say its affective short term... right there tells us the diet DOES work. This kind of diet is generally used SHORT TERM. Its not a permenant answer obviously. Although there have been numerous people stay on this diet for years at a time with no problems.

4. This diet is like any other diet its affectiveness and effects on health are going to be equal to the amount of effort you put into making it so.

5. I'm not saying this diet is a end all or cure for obesity, I'm just saying that it serves its purpose.

[ChelseaF]

Hey Femme Fatale... as a self confessed junk food junkie...Big Macs were my best freind...never thought I could live w/out them....BUT I have since last October....not even tempted. I've been doing this low carb thing since then...and just recently...maybe on month ago, started w/the Ketogenic to get me past my "plateau". And it worked.

I saw where you wrote something about 'for the rest of mylife'...well I truly beleive I can and will be able to stick w/this "diet" for the rest of mylife (i'm 35). Its easy...it truly is. I've never felt compelled to write to anyone on any website, or forum or board...but I really feel for you. I am only 5ft tall and at my heaviest weighed 225 consistantly for about 8 years ( i once..just once weighed in at the doctors office at 231...yikes). I now weight 165..i was stuck at 169-171 for two months before Ketogenic...then I was able to bust thru that plateau..I've also started weight training..not wimpy weight training either...fairly heavy weight, I love how my body has shaped up...i have these sexy muscles in my back I never even knew I could achieve...I do not look like a body builder...but I definately have definition...even some HUGE body building man at the gym told me I nice biceps :)

Not to write a book here, but the reason I feel I can stick to this diet is because basically its monday thru friday...and you carb-load on saturdayafternnon, thru Sunday... (someone here will correct my timeframe i know) but i feel like I work out hard in that gym...I eat GOOD all week and then weekends I eat what I want...i still do not eat fast food because I choose not to. But I had mexican rice this weekend, bbq, more rice (another weakness of mine) but I still have portion control thats the thing...for me I mean. Please get more info on this diet...I'm really excited for you to try it. I'm still not done w/weight loss...I still have a few lbs to lose, but muscle weighs more than fat and I definately have muslces..So now I'm not SO much interested in what my scale reads...I just know what I want my body to look like...its almost there...and whatever size pants I wear that day, or whatever the scale reads that day...well that will be that. There...I think I'm done. GOOD LUCK TO YOU!! Please keep me and the rest of us informed.

[FemmeFatale]

*sigh* I don't know what's happened. Everything fell apart completely when we had to go a few weeks without groceries and the only thing in the house was ...well, rice, water, cereal, and coffee. I've gained everything I lost (though it wasn't much) and more back. I also have been really anxious/depressed lately because I'm now bigger than I've ever been and I have no clothes that fit me. Even my fattest pair of fat jeans are torn. :(

[under construction]

rice water and coffe couldnt have done that to you. What the heck kind of cereal are you eating?

[LOSTINLUV]

Hello to everyone here. I just want to say that I have read a lot of forums on weight loss and YOU guys are the MOST supportive...so I joined. So thanks for helping me out too!!

Femme Fatale, Let me start by telling you Don't give up!!! Let me breif you on my story first, I'm a 24 year old female with 4 children. My weight was at 318lbs and I was shocked and didn't know what to do. Then I bought the a south beach diet book. I started the diet may 28 2008. This was not hard but understand this, I live off of little debbie(snack cakes) !!!! The very first thing I had to do was to find something to REALLY inspire me to lose weight. My children, my husband, and my life. Even thought I want to fit in those size 14 jeans, that's not enough to keep you motivated. Besides I didn't want all the health problems!!

Anyway, I had to do something I hate(because I'm in school) I had to write down everything I ate, the color of the keto sticks and record my weight once a week. even though I weigh myself every day!!

The first week I lost 9lbs.
Second-2lbs.
Third-2lbs
Fourth-0 none!!

I stopped right there because by then I was only eating 800ish calories a day!! So I took a whole week and ate what ever I wanted. I'm serious what ever I wanted(I'm a cook!!!)BUT I still exercised. I thought I would gain a lot of weight so I went to the scale and I had lost another 4lbs in week 5

week 5-4lbs
week6-6lbs
week7-1

After week 5 I went back on the diet and after week 7 I came back off because , again my body was getting use to it!!

Week 8- 0
Week 9- 4lbs

The basic thing is to fine something that works for YOU and your body. Every body is different and you have to study yourself to fine out how you work. I actually added fiber pills and started eating fruit and stuff and I'm still losing weight but I try not to go over 1200 calories a day and I keep the protein up!!

I know you can't exercise a lot but anything is always better than nothing!! I only walk 500 steps a day on the stair stepper!! So I don't do alot but I try to add differnt things to my schedule. For the most part, I'm sitting in front of this computer!!!! So again, it's all about you and your body. If you don't lose any weight for a week, don't get depressed because your body takes time to adjust and sometimes it need's a "shock"(something different) Keep trying and you will get there. Good Luck!!!

[LOSTINLUV]

Also, I take Alpha Lipoic pills because it helps my skin to take shape(elasticity) and also it helps your body to properly metabolize carbs. I take 200mg twice a day, usually in the morning and the last meal of the day!! Take them before you eat!!