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Old 09-09-2008, 05:33 PM   #61
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If your knees hurt when you walk, don't do much. I would advise you buy a Dino Band and do some exercise with it, have a look at the link below, if you can afford it also investigate into a swiss ball and work toward writing your own fitness plan.

YouTube - Best Resistance band exercises for the upper body

As for diet, eat little and often, try and taper of the carbs as the day progresses, otherwise the unused carbs get stored as fat.

Have you tried drinking green tea? You can make some tasty iced tea with it and its much better than diet soft drinks etc.

Hope this will help you. Good luck! and keep going we are here for you for any advice + motivation.
 
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If your knees hurt when you walk, don't do much. I would advise you buy a Dino Band and do some exercise with it, have a look at the link below, if you can afford it also investigate into a swiss ball and work toward writing your own fitness plan.

YouTube - Best Resistance band exercises for the upper body

As for diet, eat little and often, try and taper of the carbs as the day progresses, otherwise the unused carbs get stored as fat.

Have you tried drinking green tea? You can make some tasty iced tea with it and its much better than diet soft drinks etc.

Hope this will help you. Good luck! and keep going we are here for you for any advice + motivation.
I'd love to buy one of those thingies, if I had any money!

Also, I love green tea. I drink it hot and cold. :) But I really don't consume sugared drinks. I do admittedly drink a lot of stuff with fake sugar in it, which I know isn't good... but that's more of a substitution for the "real" stuff, you know?
 
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:58 PM   #63
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You can pick up a dyno band for about 5 dollars (link to ebay UK). And then search for exercises online.

1M Exercise Stretch Band - Medium or Heavy Resistance on eBay, also, Other Exercise Fitness, Exercise Fitness, Sporting Goods (end time 14-Sep-08 17:27:15 BST)
 
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I don't have 5 dollars, as sad as that sounds, nor do I have anything (such as a credit card or paypal account) with which to purchase things online. Thanks though.
 
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Hasn't ANYONE read my first post?
 
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As a girl who's always had trouble with my weight and joint problems, i felt i should post in this thread. Ketosis and such sound like pretty advanced diets for someone just starting out. I didn't decide overnight that i wanted to be a bodybuilder; i eased gradually into it. Rather than "dieting", i prefer to think of it as "changing my diet," because it's been a slow process of trying different things and watching for improvement.

I'd like to recommend a website, i've recommended it to every girl i know so far: stumptuous.com. Women's Weight Training

This site has been instrumental in my change to healthier habits. It's got sensible, practical advice that's geared towards everyday women. It's not the stuff of professional athletes, but it will work for "ordinary" people like us.

Like you, i don't have health insurance and i haven't seen a doctor in years. I managed to see some practitioners some years ago, when i was still covered under my parents' plan and i was feeling the onset of my arthritis and tendinitis. Just about every doctor and physical therapist i saw told me that strengthening the muscles around the joints would support them better, and that increasing my muscle would be the only way to improve my joints' condition. Unfortunately, they never mentioned weight training, so it was many years before i discovered that girls can lift weights too and put two and two together! I don't know much about lyme disease, but i have to say the arthritis and tendinitis have improved greatly since i started my training.

Also, if you don't have access to a gym or weight set, don't underestimate the power of bodyweight exercises. Before i got my weight set (i was pretty strapped for cash too!), i did unweighted squats and pushups. I couldn't do a full-out floor pushup, but i remembered my physical therapist recommended wall pushups, and those worked pretty well till i could work my way up to the full ones. A lot of people with knee problems are wary of squats, but doing them has only improved my knees; the key is to go into them slowly and adjust your form if you feel any sharp, shooting pains.

Oh, another thing i did when i couldn't afford a weight set was use makeshift weights; soup cans and the like, as someone else mentioned in this thread. When cans and such were too light for me, i'd grab a couple of gallon jugs, like milk containers, and fill them with water. Sand also works if you're in a desert or beach area with sand for soil.

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this already but, gram for gram, a big tub of protein powder is a lot cheaper than whole protein sources like meats. Bulk food stores like costco or price club sell them for reasonable prices. It lasts a long time and makes for a good "emergency food" if you run out of other protein sources like before, or it can be a good supplement if you're sick of chicken. Of course, getting enough protein is critical when you're restricting your calories.

Also, how do you feel about beans? They're usually pretty cheap if you buy them dry and in bulk (much cheaper than canned beans, anyway). They're filling and have some protein. Not a hell of a lot, but if you mix them in with every serving of rice, it can really add up. I really don't know what to say about vegetables; all i can offer is that if you change your eating habits, over time, your palette will change and you may come to like foods you hated before, or be sickened by things you used to like, like sweets.

I hope my post didn't come across as pretentious or anything. I ended up rambling a lot, sorry! I mainly wanted to share my experience, to tell you about some of the things that have worked for me. Everyone's different and will react differently, and it will take time before these changes take place, but the important thing to remember is that you CAN do it! Everyone has a right to take control of their bodies, no matter how bleak things may seem.

I hope that helped!
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:44 AM   #68
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As a girl who's always had trouble with my weight and joint problems, i felt i should post in this thread. Ketosis and such sound like pretty advanced diets for someone just starting out. I didn't decide overnight that i wanted to be a bodybuilder; i eased gradually into it. Rather than "dieting", i prefer to think of it as "changing my diet," because it's been a slow process of trying different things and watching for improvement.

I'd like to recommend a website, i've recommended it to every girl i know so far: stumptuous.com. Women's Weight Training

This site has been instrumental in my change to healthier habits. It's got sensible, practical advice that's geared towards everyday women. It's not the stuff of professional athletes, but it will work for "ordinary" people like us.

Like you, i don't have health insurance and i haven't seen a doctor in years. I managed to see some practitioners some years ago, when i was still covered under my parents' plan and i was feeling the onset of my arthritis and tendinitis. Just about every doctor and physical therapist i saw told me that strengthening the muscles around the joints would support them better, and that increasing my muscle would be the only way to improve my joints' condition. Unfortunately, they never mentioned weight training, so it was many years before i discovered that girls can lift weights too and put two and two together! I don't know much about lyme disease, but i have to say the arthritis and tendinitis have improved greatly since i started my training.

Also, if you don't have access to a gym or weight set, don't underestimate the power of bodyweight exercises. Before i got my weight set (i was pretty strapped for cash too!), i did unweighted squats and pushups. I couldn't do a full-out floor pushup, but i remembered my physical therapist recommended wall pushups, and those worked pretty well till i could work my way up to the full ones. A lot of people with knee problems are wary of squats, but doing them has only improved my knees; the key is to go into them slowly and adjust your form if you feel any sharp, shooting pains.

Oh, another thing i did when i couldn't afford a weight set was use makeshift weights; soup cans and the like, as someone else mentioned in this thread. When cans and such were too light for me, i'd grab a couple of gallon jugs, like milk containers, and fill them with water. Sand also works if you're in a desert or beach area with sand for soil.

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this already but, gram for gram, a big tub of protein powder is a lot cheaper than whole protein sources like meats. Bulk food stores like costco or price club sell them for reasonable prices. It lasts a long time and makes for a good "emergency food" if you run out of other protein sources like before, or it can be a good supplement if you're sick of chicken. Of course, getting enough protein is critical when you're restricting your calories.

Also, how do you feel about beans? They're usually pretty cheap if you buy them dry and in bulk (much cheaper than canned beans, anyway). They're filling and have some protein. Not a hell of a lot, but if you mix them in with every serving of rice, it can really add up. I really don't know what to say about vegetables; all i can offer is that if you change your eating habits, over time, your palette will change and you may come to like foods you hated before, or be sickened by things you used to like, like sweets.

I hope my post didn't come across as pretentious or anything. I ended up rambling a lot, sorry! I mainly wanted to share my experience, to tell you about some of the things that have worked for me. Everyone's different and will react differently, and it will take time before these changes take place, but the important thing to remember is that you CAN do it! Everyone has a right to take control of their bodies, no matter how bleak things may seem.

I hope that helped!

No, you didn't sound pretentious AT ALL! In fact, I really appreciate your advice and how you relate to me. :) Do you suppose you and I could discuss more in-depth some of the things that you do/suggestions you might have? I've been back in my familiar binge-starve cycle lately which only manages to make me feel sick and gain weight! But yes, things do, in fact seem rather bleak at the moment.

On the thing about squats and such - every time I go into a "funny" knee position like that, when I straighten the joint again (i.e. if I squat down and get back up again) my knees, particularly my right knee, pops pretty loudly/pretty hard and it hurts a -lot-. I don't really know where to go from here but your response has given me new hope :)
 
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I'd be glad to go into detail for any questions you have.

It seems that starving and binging is the most unhealthy thing you're doing right now. It can really mess up your hormones!

I'll share an anecdote: I knew someone who went to the doctor for a case of, for lack of a more technical term, "man-boobs." He was worried, rightly so, about his hormones. The doctor did some tests and told him he had the hormonal profile of a prisoner of war; sometimes, he said, when soldiers are taken prisoner and starved in death camps, after they come back to their home countries and finally start eating again, they gain fat in weird places. It sounded like he destroyed his testosterone production and maybe gained some estrogen. The doctor said this often happens to people with bulimic eating habits. When i first heard this, i was like, "There's no way you're bulimic, you don't throw up your food!" But apparently, according to the doctor, bulimia refers to going for long periods without food and then eating a huge meal to make up for it. Sure enough, my friend had been eating, at most, one meal a day.

Anyway, the point i was making is that these eating habits can screw up hormones so badly, they can give a man boobs. Nobody probably notices it on girls though, because we're supposed to have boobs! But an excess of estrogen can mess us up too, because it encourages fat storage and discourages muscle.

So it's really important to space your food out throughout the day. Usually, i boil up a giant pot of lentils in the morning or whatever so i can munch on the rest throughout the day. It sounds like you have the right calorie amounts, you just need to split them up more and you should be fine.

About the squats:

Sounds like you have a case of crunchy knees. My left elbow crunches like the soundtrack of a mortal kombat movie whenever i curl or bench press, and it burns like crazy! Only my right knee has started crunching lately, and only when i'm careless about it. Still, i think this advice can still apply.

When i was in physical therapy, they would heat up my elbow with a hot pad before my exercises. They would also use an ultrasound machine, they said it encouraged blood flow to the area. The heat and ultrasound would loosen up the joint, sometimes almost to the point where it wouldn't crunch anymore! It was after all this that they had me do exercises with it. After the exercises were done, they would chill it with an ice pack, to reduce swelling and inflammation caused by the exercise. After i could no longer see a physical therapist, i've tried to duplicate the physical therapy experience. Obviously, i can't afford an ultrasound machine! But i did get this handy reusable gel pack that can be heated up in the microwave or tossed in the freezer.

You can probably make the same kind of heat pack with a towel or washcloth soaked in hot water. When the towel starts cooling down, dip it in hot water again or toss it in the microwave. Just be careful not to burn the skin! Before i got the gel pack, sometimes i would fill up the bathroom sink with hot water and just stick my elbow in it for 20 minutes or so! That might be kind of awkward to do with knees, so maybe just stick with the hot towel. If it's too wet or messy, maybe you can do it over a bathtub. A hot bath might work well too, it'd heat up your whole body in that way though, so you might come out looking like a lobster, lol! Anyway, once the joints are heated up, they should feel much looser and crunch less, so that's the perfect time to exercise. They may still crunch during strength training, but it's better than crunching without strength training; it can only improve their condition. Also, after your workout, you'll be soothing the joint with a cold compress. This can be done easily with a plastic bag of ice cubes, add a little bit of water so that the bag will conform to the shape of your knees. Like with the hot towel, be careful not to damage your skin; i usually wrapped my ice bag in a t-shirt or towel.

Another thing about squats is that form is VERY important! Be sure your knees point in the same direction as your toes and keep your lower back arched. When i started, i studied the hell outta stuff like this:

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Basically anything in the training section of stumptuous is good. Exrx.net is also a great resource for form, anatomy, and medical stuff in general. If squatting still makes you uncomfortable, you can try the lunges and split squats listed here: Thigh Exercise Menu and just substitute "dumbbell" with "milk jugs" or whatever.

Hope that helps!
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I don't know if you realize it but there are free clinics that you can go to for assistance. Just thought I would let you know because there should not be any form of can't in your vernacular for the time being. Despite the amount of rhetoric that you use to describe your situation, there are facilities that can help no matter how destitute your state is. It seems you have access to a computer, use it for info on finding free health care. Of course this is only a suggestion.
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I don't know if you realize it but there are free clinics that you can go to for assistance. Just thought I would let you know because there should not be any form of can't in your vernacular for the time being. Despite the amount of rhetoric that you use to describe your situation, there are facilities that can help no matter how destitute your state is. It seems you have access to a computer, use it for info on finding free health care. Of course this is only a suggestion.
I appreciate this comment, and actually there IS a free clinic fairly close to here. Now, if only I could GET THERE. I can't drive, it's too far to walk, can't talk anyone into taking me, and buses give me panic attacks. Can you see why I feel backed into a corner? :(

Also, any prescriptions I might receive... I can't afford to fill.

I have yoyoed up to 255 pounds and down to 229 pounds and I am ironically back to my starting point from when I started this thread of 245. Argh.
 
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Call them, they will be willing to work something out with you. You need to do this, if you want to life a happy, healthy life, you need professional advice.
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Call them, they will be willing to work something out with you. You need to do this, if you want to life a happy, healthy life, you need professional advice.
I called. They told me that they already offer a free clinic, why would I ask for free transportation? Ugh.
 
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Well I have to say that if you really want it, you have to go out and get it. You have to be the one who take initiative and go there, no matter what it takes. That is the last bit of advice I can offer you, you know what you need to do, now just do it.
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Well I have to say that if you really want it, you have to go out and get it. You have to be the one who take initiative and go there, no matter what it takes. That is the last bit of advice I can offer you, you know what you need to do, now just do it.
Ignorant is what you are. If I COULD go "no matter what it takes" I'd have gone already. Have you ever had a panic attack? Maybe you should read about it.
 
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I guess you are right.
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Listen, I'm sorry if I seem ... well, hopeless, but that's pretty much how I feel. I also didn't mean to come off so bitchy but I'm very -very- frustrated right now.
 
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I don't know what I can suggest that would help, but I want you to know that I believe that you can do this!!

Coming here was the first step and you should be extremely proud of yourself for making this change for the better!

You are in a very hard position right now, but I KNOW that you can do this!!!

Like Frag suggested start off using your body as weights or maybe simple things like never stop moving though the day, little things like tapping your foot or playing with hair, just don't stop. I read that doing this can burn up to 500 calories alone.

Ice water may help too, it was burn calories with your body trying to warm it up to body temp and anything spicy like chilli or hot sauce are meant to speed up metabolism too!!

Gosh, I know it's hard because you only get one thing from your boyfreinds parents, but don't give up sweetie!!

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I don't know what I can suggest that would help, but I want you to know that I believe that you can do this!!

Coming here was the first step and you should be extremely proud of yourself for making this change for the better!

You are in a very hard position right now, but I KNOW that you can do this!!!

Like Frag suggested start off using your body as weights or maybe simple things like never stop moving though the day, little things like tapping your foot or playing with hair, just don't stop. I read that doing this can burn up to 500 calories alone.

Ice water may help too, it was burn calories with your body trying to warm it up to body temp and anything spicy like chilli or hot sauce are meant to speed up metabolism too!!

Gosh, I know it's hard because you only get one thing from your boyfreinds parents, but don't give up sweetie!!

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Old 02-17-2009, 03:54 AM   #81
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Haaiii, haven't heard from you in a while! Just want to know that you are still trying to get your health on track...I PM'd you n stuff! I wish I could help more really bad, but I'll keep trying to give you motivation!! :)

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Old 02-17-2009, 12:14 PM   #82
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I'm still around, still alive. Yo-yoing as usual.

Lost 25ish pounds, gained it back. Blah.
 
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Small changes...Small changes...

You are in a unique scenario in a number of ways. Wanting to be healthier is wonderful. Whether you make one huge change or lots of small ones, you can get there. Small changes add up after a while.
 
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As long as you want to change, the next step is to create a healthy environment and progress into exercise.

Little steps each day, little changes will add up.

For me, early on it was just stopping fast food and sodas. That alone was a big change and helped a lot.

When does a diet cease to be a diet? When it becomes a lifestyle!
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Alright, I definitely didnt read every post in this thread, but I went thru a lot of the first page. Did you calculate how many, on average, cals you take in, where they are coming from, where all your vitamins and minerals are, fruits and veggie intake? You need to have this info. Track everything you would normally eat for 3-5 days. I can try to send you a program to calculate all of this, or you might be able to find a website. Look thru the forums, there might be a post on a website that will do this for you. If you don't find anything, let me know.
 
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Alright, I definitely didnt read every post in this thread, but I went thru a lot of the first page. Did you calculate how many, on average, cals you take in, where they are coming from, where all your vitamins and minerals are, fruits and veggie intake? You need to have this info. Track everything you would normally eat for 3-5 days. I can try to send you a program to calculate all of this, or you might be able to find a website. Look thru the forums, there might be a post on a website that will do this for you. If you don't find anything, let me know.
I use caloriecount.about.com

or just use google and type in quotes "food name calories" you get good results that way too.
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ok.
gonna keep it sweet and short-
u will make sure u change cus ur pissed at ur self an desperate.
every tym i c ur posts, i will add sumthing. from d 1st 2 posts, i cn tell u these things-
1- only using olive oil is no good. try mixingup all the fats in your diet. take equal amounts of PUFA, MUFA and saturated fats.
2- john barardi says that if its in you kitchen, it will be in your stomach. anything that doesnt get you closer to your goals will get you farther away.
3- read burn the fat feed the muscle. it has a good sectiuon on goal setting. very importat (most important)
4- add fiber to your diet and try to remove low fiber carbs.
5- yourfood habbits are not too good. your body is used to bad food. there is an extreme cure for this- the velocity diet.
(5 meals a day of protein shakes, 6 days a week. one one day has a solid food meal and 4 liquid meals. appearently it helps to reset your bodies habbits. I think going on a diet of high fiber and cottage cheese might help more as solid food is more thermogenic.)
6-any and all info you read here is utter crap and bull**** untill you apply it. i know people here will shoot me full of holes for this, cus i myself am a fat bastard.
also, if u really wanna use a ketogenic diet and eat ur carbs too, u cant do it. try a low carb diet with post w/o carb and protein meals.
hopefully you can post your training?
 
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Just want to say I admire you for posting in such detail..I have no dieting experience so to speak.But after a back injury 4 years ago I had gained weight due to depression and lack of ability.I got a hold of a pedometer..and kept track of my steps and tried to beat my prior number everyday..its slow but the goals are easily attainable.literally 1 step at a time. I hope you are well and getting better.
 
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