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Old 07-28-2005, 01:23 PM   #1
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I'm getting ready for a natural competition. Are these forums are a bad place to look for advice? From what I understand, drastic carb loading/depletion and sodium loading/ depletion and water depletion don't work well for the natural athlete. Any advice for those of us doing it the hard way?
 
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:32 PM   #2
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"Any advice for those of us doing it the hard way?"

You're gonna make some enemies around here.
 
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:32 PM   #3
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I'm getting ready for a natural competition. Are these forums are a bad place to look for advice? From what I understand, drastic carb loading/depletion and sodium loading/ depletion and water depletion don't work well for the natural athlete. Any advice for those of us doing it the hard way?
everything in the contest prep section that i have written is geared toward natural prep. This forum is a great place to gain advice and knowledge on the subject of contest prep. feel free to ask any questions you have here and i will answer them to the best of my ability.
 
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:51 PM   #4
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I'm getting ready for a natural competition. Are these forums are a bad place to look for advice? From what I understand, drastic carb loading/depletion and sodium loading/ depletion and water depletion don't work well for the natural athlete. Any advice for those of us doing it the hard way?
Can you give us any background on why you have heard that carb loading/depleting is "bad" for the natural athlete?
 
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Old 07-29-2005, 02:32 PM   #5
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A natural athlete’s body is not out of equilibrium as far as a bodybuilder who is using steroids, beta blocker, and powerful thermogenics. Using a drastic shock method may or may not leave you at you peak for competition.



A natural athlete cannot diet as hard as a roid head, because they do not have the drugs to help their body hold onto muscle and preferentially burn fat. Natural athletes also take longer to add muscle, which makes it even more important to hold onto as much muscle as possible while dieting.



I found a good article that was linked by gumby51 on his post. (thx gumby!) It has a lot of stuff about natural preparation that makes since to me.



http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne36.htm



It proposes a more moderate method of contest preparation, without any drastic changes. I think when it comes down to it, natural bodybuilding is about looking good and being healthy, while regular bodybuilding is about doing whatever you can to get big regardless of painfully obvious long term health risks.



As for Doggy’s remark about making enemies, I could care less. People who use steroids to get big don’t bother me. And they defiantly don’t scare me. If they feel the need to cut years off their life to look like a circus attraction for a couple years in the present, more power to them. I think freaky bodybuilders have a place in the spotlight. Looking at a 280 pound bodybuilder with 3% body fat is cool the same way looking a guy with tattoos all over his face swallow knives and regurgitate them. Freaky. Far from attractive.



What really fucking bothers me is people who lie about using drugs to get huge. Open a supplement magazine and you will see a professional telling you he got huge using this or that brand of creatine, or glutamine, or protein. Nevermind the fact that they have a GH gut from their overgrown internal organs, and misshaped muscles from their synthol injections. Add in an enlarged heart, tiny balls, and one seriously messed up hormone system from taking years of steroids, GH, and insulin, and begin to understand the picture.



Or the dickhead guy at the supplement store who acted so interested in my natural competition preparation. He told me he was thinking about doing a natural competition too. I was kinda surprised that this guy was natural at 5’8 250 with about 10% bodyfat, but I like to believe people. After talking to his brother the next day in the gym I find out he takes tes, deca, winny and GH, to prepare for his natural competitions. So yeah that does piss me off. What a wanker. I hope his tiny balls fall off.



To all those thinking of doing roids, one thing I have found is that women prefer the natural bodybuilder look to the roid look hands down. If the health effects are not bad enough, think of not getting laid. Or worse, attracting only roided-up women with deep voices and a nice elongated clitorises.



And you can still get pretty big naturally; I am 6 ft 220 with about 8% bodyfat. Live healthy. Lift naturally. For the future.
 
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Old 07-29-2005, 02:37 PM   #6
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The insults to unatural bodybuilders isnt needed here. if you dont have something nice to say, dont say it at all, not in my section. Unnatural Pro's and amatuers work just as hard, if not harder then any natural bodybuilder. they take what they want to take because they do what they have to to live their dream, if you dont have respect for that then you need to leave this forum.

"To all those thinking of doing roids, one thing I have found is that women prefer the natural bodybuilder look to the roid look hands down. If the health effects are not bad enough, think of not getting laid. "

This is one of the stupidest things i have ever read.... if you lift only to get laid, you need to take a step back and think about what your doing.
 
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:20 PM   #7
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The insults to unatural bodybuilders isnt needed here. if you dont have something nice to say, dont say it at all, not in my section. Unnatural Pro's and amatuers work just as hard, if not harder then any natural bodybuilder. they take what they want to take because they do what they have to to live their dream, if you dont have respect for that then you need to leave this forum.

"To all those thinking of doing roids, one thing I have found is that women prefer the natural bodybuilder look to the roid look hands down. If the health effects are not bad enough, think of not getting laid. "

This is one of the stupidest things i have ever read.... if you lift only to get laid, you need to take a step back and think about what your doing.
Agreed, good post Gumby. If you have a question on prep post it, keep all the other stuff to yourself please. Unprovoked insults dont benefit anybody
 
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:37 PM   #8
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[size=3][font=Times New Roman]After talking to his brother the next day in the gym I find out he takes tes, deca, winny and GH, to prepare for his natural competitions.
lol
 
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:22 PM   #9
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Hey bro, ActionDave. I work very hard for my muscle and if you going to insult myself and others for anabolic substance abuse then you need not be on this site. Steoids will not permanently shrink you balls and shorten you life. What they will do is make you three times bigger and stronger than your genetic potential if used properly. You should really not speak about something you know nothing about. Hdogg might yell at me for making this post but I really think he agrees in a way. Natural or Unnatural it doesn't matter if you bust your ass. And just for the record, all girls are different. I hightly doubt every single women in this world prefers a skinny guy over a muscle man. I know plenty of hot girls that love muscle freaks, so it depends on who you meet and what you want to be, not what others want you to be. Later bro, and the best advice you'll get is to be considerate of others and listen to their advice, especially when you don't know the topic your speaking of, or have never experimented with AAS.
 
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:25 PM   #10
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Oh, and Gumby, I just wanted to say that you really are an awesome guy to say the things you did. I know that you are natural, and for you to say that the drug users probably work a lot harder than the naturals really earned my respect bro.
 
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:54 PM   #11
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. Hdogg might yell at me for making this post but I really think he agrees in a way. Natural or Unnatural it doesn't matter if you bust your ass.
Why would i yell? I agree, i have no problem with anybody who decides to use AAS, as long as they understand how they work, know what to do once they get off cycle, are old enough, are eating enough and training hard. AAS has a place for most elite bodybuilders, but it should be done responsibly on top of doing everything else right.
 
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:59 PM   #12
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Thanks for being cool about it. I'm not really pissed at this guy because he obviously hasn't learned enough yet, but what pisses me off the most is when they try to teach others that really know their shit with what they're talking about. Especially when it comes to roids, I really know what I am talking about + I've been through 5 cycles (not trying to sound cocky.) So it just hurts to see someone be one sided without even learning about the other side. But enough of this. God Bless if he wants to be natural, no hard feelings toward anyone.
 
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Old 07-29-2005, 07:54 PM   #13
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who the hell is this guy? what an a$$whip!
 
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