body built by masochism

**ZiR RED** · 01-12-2008, 11:26 PM

I'm perhaps 5 or 8 pounds light right now as I concentrate more on athletic performance, agility, speed and power instead of hypertrophy.

Notice, if you will, the massive hypertrophy in hair volume over the past 3 years

**ZiR RED** · 01-12-2008, 11:30 PM

More of my ugly ass...2006 and fall of 2007

**ZiR RED** · 01-12-2008, 11:31 PM

Last ones, promise

auburnman1 · 01-13-2008, 01:46 AM

u look amazing. one thing to focus more on is your back. but still u look amazing.

are u in any competitions?

KM · 01-13-2008, 02:23 AM

Is that really you?

**bbdude** · 01-13-2008, 06:52 AM

u look great^^

but u need more back work, no offence.

**ZiR RED** · 01-13-2008, 09:45 AM

KM, who else would that be? Do you know another big red with the same super-hero chin, paleolithic jaw, and abominable red hair?

Quote:

Originally Posted by auburnman1

u look amazing. one thing to focus more on is your back. but still u look amazing.

are u in any competitions?

Really?

I always thought my back was one of my best attributes, and my chest needed the most improvement (pecs respond slower). What specific muscles or regions do you think are out of proportion? Thickness, width, etc?

Thanks

Br

**bbdude** · 01-13-2008, 11:41 AM

u got the detail but u need a little more width...

KM · 01-13-2008, 12:23 PM

My bad bro didn't know. The pictures look so professional.

You look awesome man.

redfirebirdowner · 01-13-2008, 03:19 PM

I had to go back and reread I thought you were going for bodybuilding,but your going for a more track runner look.Thats good but most track stars have good size to their calves,yours are tiny.No offense.

**ZiR RED** · 01-13-2008, 08:35 PM

Not offended at all. I know my weak points, and having large thighs makes my calves look even smaller.

However, I'm not "going for a track runner look," haha, I'm training to improve my athletic performance, not how athletic I look.

cmart315 · 01-14-2008, 01:29 AM

Your symmetry and condition is awesome. You look great man. What are your specs ? height, weight, bf? Its pictures like these that remind me what it will feel like to be cut back down from a bulk again.

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**Sparky_dustin** · 01-14-2008, 02:07 PM

Kinda reminds me of Ken Waller

TIX30A · 01-15-2008, 03:53 PM

lol cpt america lol

mvillelifter · 01-19-2008, 09:41 PM

i disagree...you have a great back.

you look good

Malgate · 01-20-2008, 07:55 AM

mate keep up the good work

**Kaboom** · 02-20-2008, 09:41 PM

Red you look great.I was going to respond with you need back work but that was only after the first pics.Your back improved greatly over the last couple of yrs.
Oh by the way you a show off had to come repeat what i said just use a bunch of big words lol Im kidding bro.You have great advice on alot of subjects.

**Zack** · 02-20-2008, 09:46 PM

I'm gonna go with the other guys on this one and say you do need more width in your back. I didn't really realize until now that you weren't going for an overall bodybuilding look.

Calves are pretty much genetic man. I've heard Freak talk about this a few times and basically you either have them huge or you don't, but you can put A LOT of work into them to help increase the size. Being short actually helps me with my calf size.

But yeah, basically if you just kinda up the width of your back slightly it'll definitely help you out. With how they are now they kinda make ur waist seem not as small as it actually is. But looking good man. You're doing a great job.

<3Frosty · 02-20-2008, 11:34 PM

Your build is right around what i would be pleased to have. Especially if you can maintain that body fat percentage for the length you have mentioned in another thread. Im envious of your dedication to not only looking great, but performing great in the gym as well.

Not to mention, you know alot and are very easy going and helpful. But who didnt know that already?

<3Frosty · 02-20-2008, 11:38 PM

And if im gunna be picky, id say the work needs to be put in on the traps more than any other thing i noticed. Everything else is pretty proportional. But the trapezius definition isnt quite there. I didnt look at the legs, specifically the calves though.

Smeton_yea · 02-25-2008, 02:22 PM

great shape man. Extremely well conditioned. Im sure your back is wide because when i do a back double biceps my back looks way smaller than it is, for some reason. Im looking to find the cause, change the cause and change the effect. I havnt figured it out as of yet

tigeraj2 · 02-26-2008, 08:38 PM

u look awesome dude. nice pecs

**Zack** · 04-19-2008, 03:19 AM

any new progress pics?

def wanna see how ur looking these days

**ZiR RED** · 04-19-2008, 10:09 AM

About the same...Perhaps a little lighter and leaner since my training over the past year has been geared toward athletic performance.

I'll see if I can get someone to snap some outdoors pics for me this weekend.

Br

**Zack** · 04-19-2008, 03:15 PM

awesome.

from what I remember u stay at like 5% all year round, how much leaner are we talking here haha

**mperk** · 04-21-2008, 10:53 PM

Zir;

You be one brolic dude! good work on the bod bud! It's not the typical big BB body but very well defined and lean - You must have a great gene pool! Are u really at 5% over theyear - that's incredible.

Good work dude & good posts!

maverick_76 · 04-26-2008, 03:38 PM

Dude awesome job at being cut up! You look very muscular but quick and agile at the same time. I wish I could say that about myself, but soon maybe....

maverick_76 · 04-26-2008, 03:41 PM

And I would say the same thing about the proportions, work on traps and calves. You just got long legs and short calf muscles, so it is really tough to add size, but your guns, chest and back look very symmetrical to me.

KM · 04-26-2008, 07:58 PM

Jay, I clicked on your pictures and it says Copyrighted (C) by BBPICS.COM. Are you a contracted model? If so that's awesome, I saw you on the list on that site.

**ZiR RED** · 04-28-2008, 10:15 AM

Not contracted. John (the owner of bbpics.com) did those shots for me. Technically they're his and they cannot be used (say in a magazine or commercial or anything like that) without him being compensated.

I like to get professional shots done at least once a year though. They look good, and its a good way to monitor progress. Plus, if any modeling opportunities arise out of them, all the better.

Br