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Old 11-29-2005, 07:32 PM   #1
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Hey all . Read some where that arnold only took dianabol how much do you all think the truth to this is ? . I dont think it is pos to get like that of oral only i may be wrong tho what all your opinions ?
 
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:45 PM   #2
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pros even at that era never did just orals, or better yet one oral at once, Arnold promots bodybuilding as best as he can, so since everybody kows he did steroids he trys to make it seem like it was just mild, i dont wanna say there were doing heavy doseages but for sure they were not doing just one type of steroid at one time!
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Old 11-30-2005, 12:14 AM   #3
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it doesn't matter what arnold took.....he is god!
 
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Old 11-30-2005, 12:16 AM   #4
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it doesn't matter what arnold took.....he is god!
true...but i will add that you really cannot listen to pros when they talk about steroids, especially arnold. many people have the wrong idear about steroids today which is why pros dont like to talk about them (also b/c they are illegal).
 
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Old 11-30-2005, 12:28 AM   #5
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you know the more and more i lsten to the posts about drugs the more it seems you guys think you cant be big and in good shape. Im dumb founded by how short you guys are selling yourselves. It doesnt take drugs to make a champion it takes hard work and complete dedication to what your doing. Drus just speed up the process and make more size possible. I thought my man Flex wheeler proved this by his showing at the 2002 mr O. Even if he was taking deca it was just to get his testosterone up to a normal level bc he was well below average from his years of drug use.(he states this in an interview in Muscular developement)

I got myself up to 220 lbs before i even touched a supplement besides protein powder. Once i stared NO2 and creatine i put on 15 more pounds, then slowly 7 more over a 3 month period. What im trying to say is that the drugs arentnecessary to be in excellent shape for your body. Man one of the biggest influences in my lifting experience has been my buddy named alvin. This guy held the bench press record in the state of Illinois for 5 years his heaviest bench was 565 and he weighed 220 lbs. Thats with no bench shirt and nothing other than vitamins and creatine. If you dont believe me u dont have to ive seen him bench. U just gotta have work ethic and believe in yourself. man go in the gym filled with a killer attitude and work ethic. Have more respect for yourslef than to say i could never do that without drugs bc i know people that have.

Thanks for reading and God Bless

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Old 11-30-2005, 03:26 AM   #6
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you know the more and more i lsten to the posts about drugs the more it seems you guys think you cant be big and in good shape. Im dumb founded by how short you guys are selling yourselves. It doesnt take drugs to make a champion it takes hard work and complete dedication to what your doing. Drus just speed up the process and make more size possible. I thought my man Flex wheeler proved this by his showing at the 2002 mr O. Even if he was taking deca it was just to get his testosterone up to a normal level bc he was well below average from his years of drug use.(he states this in an interview in Muscular developement)

I got myself up to 220 lbs before i even touched a supplement besides protein powder. Once i stared NO2 and creatine i put on 15 more pounds, then slowly 7 more over a 3 month period. What im trying to say is that the drugs arentnecessary to be in excellent shape for your body. Man one of the biggest influences in my lifting experience has been my buddy named alvin. This guy held the bench press record in the state of Illinois for 5 years his heaviest bench was 565 and he weighed 220 lbs. Thats with no bench shirt and nothing other than vitamins and creatine. If you dont believe me u dont have to ive seen him bench. U just gotta have work ethic and believe in yourself. man go in the gym filled with a killer attitude and work ethic. Have more respect for yourslef than to say i could never do that without drugs bc i know people that have.

Thanks for reading and God Bless

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nice post, it is important to not sell yourself short and think you can't do "so and so" without drugs. Even though it may not be physically possible it still hinders your progress considering that mental state.
I like the notion of a killer attitude and work ethic
One of the most memorable "natural" or as I like to say drug-free bodybuilders to me is Skip La Cour


"Never assume that you must be smaller or weaker than people using drugs. Don't concede you are inferior to anyone! Just because someone uses drugs does not guarantee that he or she will have a better physique or outperform you in the gym because you are natural. Don't sell yourself short. Your genetic potential and mental strength may determine that you can eventually have bigger arms or squat more weight. It will never happen however, if you do not believe it is possible. Others may rely too much on the drugs -- and not enough on the knowledge of training, nutrition, and supplementation. Although they may look good, they could still be greatly underachieving their real potential. If you let these slackers set limits on your development, you could be an underachiever also -- maybe even worse because you are drug-free. You won't have the drugs to compensate for your inadequacy.

Challenge yourself to look better than the people on drugs and train more efficiently in the gym. Your own genetic potential may determine it is quite possible -- so go for it!"
- Skip La Cour
 
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Old 11-30-2005, 08:56 AM   #7
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you know the more and more i lsten to the posts about drugs the more it seems you guys think you cant be big and in good shape. Im dumb founded by how short you guys are selling yourselves. It doesnt take drugs to make a champion it takes hard work and complete dedication to what your doing. Drus just speed up the process and make more size possible. I thought my man Flex wheeler proved this by his showing at the 2002 mr O. Even if he was taking deca it was just to get his testosterone up to a normal level bc he was well below average from his years of drug use.(he states this in an interview in Muscular developement)

I got myself up to 220 lbs before i even touched a supplement besides protein powder. Once i stared NO2 and creatine i put on 15 more pounds, then slowly 7 more over a 3 month period. What im trying to say is that the drugs arentnecessary to be in excellent shape for your body. Man one of the biggest influences in my lifting experience has been my buddy named alvin. This guy held the bench press record in the state of Illinois for 5 years his heaviest bench was 565 and he weighed 220 lbs. Thats with no bench shirt and nothing other than vitamins and creatine. If you dont believe me u dont have to ive seen him bench. U just gotta have work ethic and believe in yourself. man go in the gym filled with a killer attitude and work ethic. Have more respect for yourslef than to say i could never do that without drugs bc i know people that have.

Thanks for reading and God Bless

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nicly put, but in all honesty i dont see one person in this thread that thinks steroids will make them look like a bodybuilder, im pretty sure for the most part everyone here understands what steroids do
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Old 11-30-2005, 08:58 AM   #8
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and as for skip la cour what he is doing is really good is saying he never did steroids but i for one do not believe him
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:30 AM   #9
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you know the more and more i lsten to the posts about drugs the more it seems you guys think you cant be big and in good shape. Im dumb founded by how short you guys are selling yourselves. It doesnt take drugs to make a champion it takes hard work and complete dedication to what your doing. Drus just speed up the process and make more size possible. I thought my man Flex wheeler proved this by his showing at the 2002 mr O. Even if he was taking deca it was just to get his testosterone up to a normal level bc he was well below average from his years of drug use.(he states this in an interview in Muscular developement)

I got myself up to 220 lbs before i even touched a supplement besides protein powder. Once i stared NO2 and creatine i put on 15 more pounds, then slowly 7 more over a 3 month period. What im trying to say is that the drugs arentnecessary to be in excellent shape for your body. Man one of the biggest influences in my lifting experience has been my buddy named alvin. This guy held the bench press record in the state of Illinois for 5 years his heaviest bench was 565 and he weighed 220 lbs. Thats with no bench shirt and nothing other than vitamins and creatine. If you dont believe me u dont have to ive seen him bench. U just gotta have work ethic and believe in yourself. man go in the gym filled with a killer attitude and work ethic. Have more respect for yourslef than to say i could never do that without drugs bc i know people that have.

Thanks for reading and God Bless

BEn
great post bro .. agreed
 
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:21 AM   #10
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Great post all, My brother got me a mag supcription last year for Christmas to Planet Muscle. The thing that caught my eye was the fact that right on the cover big as day it said "Ban the juice" The articles and pic are mostly of natural bbers and there stlye of training. Some of these guys are in unreal shape so we all know that it is possible to get big natural we just have to push harder to get there.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:21 AM   #11
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Hey all . Read some where that arnold only took dianabol how much do you all think the truth to this is ? . I dont think it is pos to get like that of oral only i may be wrong tho what all your opinions ?
Arnold on steroids how dare you! (hehehehe)

Didn't you know he eats Icecream and lots of mayonase to build his muscles!
Get Educated and get some Hargandass Ice Cream! :bananaroc
 
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:49 AM   #12
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I dont wanna rain on anyone parade but alot of bodybuilders that say there are natural aren't, even shows that say they test bodybuilders get away with juicing because of knowledge but there are still some that really are natural, but noone should base thier decison on what other pros do or dont do, if you choose to be natural it should be your decison not because someone else said they dont juice, vice versa if you choose to juice, it shouldt be because a pro said he juiced it should be because you choose to do it! just my 2 cents
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:02 PM   #13
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