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Old 10-17-2005, 03:25 AM   #1
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I know that this thread is going to get hammered but somebody should post it up!

There have been many victoms of steroid use in what should be the healthy lifestyle admired by all.

The following is a list of just a few athletes who have suffered from using illegal drugs (steroids ect) these are:

Sonny Schmidt died at 46
Scott Klein died at 30
Ron Teufel died at 45
Dan Duchaine died at 48
Mohammed Benaziza died at 28
Andreas Munzer died at 30
Mike Mentzer died at 49
Ray Mentzer died at 47
Don Ross died at 55
Dr. John Tristany died
Don Peters died
Ray Raridon died
Dennis Newman (leukemia)
Orville Burke (coma)
Don Long (kidney failure)
Tom Prince (kidney failure)
Flex Wheeler (kidney transplant)
Tom Prince (kidney failure)
Ed Corney (stroke)
Boyer Coe (heart)
Danny Padilla (heart)
Pete Grymkowski (heart)
Mike Martarazzo 39 (triple bypass heart surgery)

* consider The average US citizen lives to be 77.2 years old.

Don't just take my word for it have a look at this website if you are angry at me http://www.taylorhooton.org/toddganci.asp

Bodybulding can be a healthy lifestyle only if it is drug free!
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:44 AM   #2
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hmmm.. interesting.. what scientific evidence do you have for this?
 
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:46 AM   #3
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I dont take steriods but i think that a one off cycle would be pretty harmless. The guys above took excessive quantities. In my own mind i compare this to you an i having one or two beers a day which wont kill you, but thirty a day will certainly catch up with your liver at some point.

Who is healthier? a bodybuilder who trains and eats perfectly, doesnt drink, smoke but takes steriods, or the typical person who drinks, smokes eats at mcdonalds is generally two stone of fat overweight but does not take steriods.

Personnally i think that the typical lifestyle is unhealthier.
 
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:47 AM   #4
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How do we know that their death's were steroid related?!?
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:54 AM   #5
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I dont take steriods but i think that a one off cycle would be pretty harmless. The guys above took excessive quantities. In my own mind i compare this to you an i having one or two beers a day which wont kill you, but thirty a day will certainly catch up with your liver at some point.

Who is healthier? a bodybuilder who trains and eats perfectly, doesnt drink, smoke but takes steriods, or the typical person who drinks, smokes eats at mcdonalds is generally two stone of fat overweight but does not take steriods.

Personnally i think that the typical lifestyle is unhealthier.
very well stated.. its funny how we dont see the facts about how many people in the US alone die because of weight problems...

An average bodybuilder gets regular check ups.. ive seen interviews with Ronnie Coleman and the guy has stated on the record that if this get him sick he would stop..

this is a bunch of bs if you ask me.. you can get facts like this and relate it to anything.. ei.smoking or drinking..

this is just big propoganda for making money.. if you click at the bottom of the site and look at the trailer.. this is something we have all seen before, and i personally think its just a way to make some coin..
 
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:03 AM   #6
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I knew you would want evidence thats why a put the website their so you could read and make up your own mind!

* Also becareful of what you read if it is endorsed by a pharmasutical company or supplements manufaturers theres a good chance they sell roids themselves. (eg they don't care about your health but whats in your wallet)
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:05 AM   #7
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I knew you would want evidence thats why a put the website their so you could read and make up your own mind!

* Also becareful of what you read if it is endorsed by a pharmasutical company or supplements manufaturers theres a good chance they sell roids themselves. (eg they don't care about your health but whats in your wallet)

have you ever done steroids yourself? this is one of many questions i would have for you..
 
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:07 AM   #8
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Whats your point
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my point is that people who havent had personal experience with steroids dont really have a clue how they work or what it does to your body..

So to me if your not a former user or have any experience with the drug itself, this thread is useless. Because how can you be against something that you dont even know?

now on the other hand if you were a user then you have all the right to share your story with us and how and why this all happened to you.. then this would be interesting.
 
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:16 AM   #10
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Why do I have to stuff around and hurt myself just to prove that point when there are literally millions of real stories to testify to this point!

Thats why I put up this weblink http://www.taylorhooton.org/toddganci.asp

talk to me when you actually read it otherwise we are both wasting our time discussing with one anouther!
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:22 AM   #11
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lol ive seen this story.. but its all good man.. i wont bug you.. we each have our own opinion.. we should just leave it at that..
 
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:38 AM   #12
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Same here, I've seen this story on TV and have read about it. It sucks for his family because it was a shock to learn that he abused steroids.
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Old 10-17-2005, 05:57 AM   #13
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Im not sure about everyone on that list, but Mike and Ray Mentzer did not die from juice. I believe they both died within a month of one an other and was from heart problems that ran in the family

Same with Danny Padilla man..his heart problem was not roid related. He found out he had problems before he even started the stuff.
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