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Originally Posted by Thomas_Rivera The gratification is the end result and getting as much done with as little effort. If a man walks ten miles and another man rides a bike ten miles they both gain the same goal, the only difference would be the man that walked would be more satisfied in his experience and the man that rode would be more satisfied that he made the trip quicker. |
Thomas,
great example of what your getting at, i have to agree with your statement as well, everyone has a different view of whats gratifying, and how to achieve their own form of gratification
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Originally Posted by KM I don't understand the gratification involved in taking the easy route, that's what I'm saying. Nothing's gained. |
just because something may appear to be the easy way out for you or me, it can also be looked at as the hard way for someone else,
example and i`ll use something we all can somewhat understand , since were on the issue of bodybuilding and talking or referring to the easy way in this particular post
steroids, some say its the easy way or "cheating" to achieve muscle growth while natural bodybuilders prefer to go it on their own and take the time involved to grow naturally
while both need to pay attention to diet and also to training, one road will lead to faster growth,
for the steroid user he or she will look at the gains made and be quite content with how they came upon those gains, in months rather than years,
for the natural bodybuilder he or she will look at the gains made over the same amount of time and see little growth as the steroid user, often its been stated that being natural is more rewarding than taking the easy way or cheating to gain muscle over the long run, but then again there are variables involved in both styles,
the steroid user while making faster gains, also has to deal with the side effects and possible damage by using this method , setting up cycles, pinning daily, taking multiple drugs to counter possible issues with other drugs, PCT, hair loss, ect..also training and diet as well is needed to be in proper order same as with a natural bodybuilder,
so i look at that and say , damn now that does not look all that easy to me, seems like a lot of work figuring out how to properly use all that stuff, how to keep the gains after, how to keep the body healthy, easy way ? not in my eyes,, but to others yes it may be looked at as easy and less gratifying,
but to the steroid user,gaining in months what takes a natural bodybuilder years to grow is gratifying to them.
now the natural builder will also take everything into play, diet , training, recovery ect. to use to any advantage for muscle growth, maybe we`ll grow a few pounds of muscle in a year maybe not,
to the steroid user this is not gratifying, to us any growth we gain is very gratifying, it takes forever and one must have patience this way, but in the end it all comes out to how we feel about how we got to were we are,
easy for some is not necessarily easy for others, gratifying for you may not be gratifying for others, and i believe that plays a part in everything that we do in life,
to the degree of how much a person is willing to learn or the amount of knowledge someone is looking for in life is independent on what each person finds fulfilling, or gratifying in this case, there is always something to learn but if your not finding any gratification from it the amount your willing to put into the effort will be either easy or hard, ok, last one, i just want to get my thoughts out here so i make sense,
lets say your looking for some info on complex carbs and how they are used in conjunction with a good diet, some people just want the " hey- when and how much should i eat each day and what complex carbs are the best, all they are looking for is a easy and quick answer to their question,
now lets take it a step further, like myself, when i got into all this last year and with the help from "Freak" aka Brent, with my diet, i had a good understanding already of complex carbs and which ones were the good ones and so forth, but what i needed help with was the amounts and how to place that info into a daily diet, once i got that info covered i was now interested in the more complex breakdown of why the complex carbs do what they do, so i bought the book he recommended, Understanding Nutrition, did i really need all that extra info , no but I found it more gratifying for myself learning everything i can about something, some call it anal, some call it overdoing it, some call it boring,, i call it gratifying, so while that may be more than some want to know, we both end up with the same thing, gratification in what we were searching for..
damn i hope this makes sense its really long winded..