Genetics

TheBiggest · 10-31-2009, 02:16 PM

How would someone be able to tell if they had "good" genetics or not?

GettinITDone · 10-31-2009, 02:19 PM

Eat, train, and sleep. Then you'll find out.

GENOMYX · 10-31-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBiggest

How would someone be able to tell if they had "good" genetics or not?

Well thats a little vague to be honest. Really depends on what your comparing Good and Bad genetics to. In regards to bodybuilding no one will have the best genetics all around. Some people will have great arms where other develope massive quads. Thats how you can compare your genes. IMO I dont think you should worry about that because theres nothing really you can do to change what your born with. The idea is to make the best with what you have and work towards your full potential.

TheBiggest · 10-31-2009, 02:35 PM

ye im still gonna try to become as big as possible regardless but i was just wondering because a lot of the members here say they have below average genetics and i was wondering how they came to that conclusion.

**mikeh40+** · 10-31-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GENOMYX

Well thats a little vague to be honest. Really depends on what your comparing Good and Bad genetics to. In regards to bodybuilding no one will have the best genetics all around. Some people will have great arms where other develope massive quads. Thats how you can compare your genes. IMO I dont think you should worry about that because theres nothing really you can do to change what your born with. The idea is to make the best with what you have and work towards your full potential.

yea i agree with that, i can attest to the big arms and crappy quads statement, seems my upper body got all the good genetics and left what was left over for my quads, my calfs are the best part of my legs, no matter what i have done over the years, my quads have never responded in size, strength yes but size , no...

good post bro!

**mikeh40+** · 10-31-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBiggest

ye im still gonna try to become as big as possible regardless but i was just wondering because a lot of the members here say they have below average genetics and i was wondering how they came to that conclusion.

its a easy way to say that some body area`s dont grow like others do, some take off and grow and some lag behind,
lets say your genetically gifted as the term goes,
you would be able to achieve a well rounded bodybuilders physique, where everything is symetrical, most of us have average genetics i would say, we can achieve a certian degree of size and strength but its not much different that the rest, a gifted bodybuilder will have the look that we strive for, which makes you say damn i want to look like that what am i doing wrong,,

take what you have and make the best of it, only time will tell just how far your genetics will take you.

GENOMYX · 10-31-2009, 02:55 PM

see and for me I have shi**y calves. lol So hard for me to put mass on them. Were all different and thats what makes bodybuilding a great sport.

**Kaboom** · 10-31-2009, 03:57 PM

good genetics is just a way of the small guy blaming anything but himself why the other guy is bigger!!!

101bodybuilder · 10-31-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaboom

good genetics is just a way of the small guy blaming anything but himself why the other guy is bigger!!!

preach

RAGEN2008 · 10-31-2009, 04:59 PM

Worrying about genetics is a waste of time, there is always someone stronger, someone getting bigger a lot faster than you and someone that might not train hard or eat right and still out grows you, the thing is that's not your problem, train, eat and let time take its course, no matter what you will be a better man than you started if you stick at it.

It all comes down to making an improvement in yourself and your life, the fact that you workout itself is an accomplishment, just enjoy the sport and the life style and don't sweat the small stuff.

TheBiggest · 10-31-2009, 06:12 PM

ye i agree that blaming ur smallness on poor genetics is just an excuse and also i just wanna clear up that i dont really care wat my genetics are like because im still gonna make the most out of wat i have regardless lol

**mikeh40+** · 10-31-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBiggest

ye i agree that blaming ur smallness on poor genetics is just an excuse and also i just wanna clear up that i dont really care wat my genetics are like because im still gonna make the most out of wat i have regardless lol

and thats all you can do bro!!

**Demon Knight** · 11-01-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBiggest

ye im still gonna try to become as big as possible regardless but i was just wondering because a lot of the members here say they have below average genetics and i was wondering how they came to that conclusion.

Bone structure, muscle bellies, FT/ST fibre composition.

Let's be fair; every single bodybuilder/athlete who has excelled does have genetic potential. Maybe not the greatest potential but some nonetheless.

They're the blokes who got into the rugby team at uni or who could bench 100kg for reps without ever lifting a single weight before. If you're one of these guys, then it is likely you do have better than average genetics.

If however you're one of those people who was ok or perhaps terrible at sports, even when matured, then your potential is probably limited compared to the previous example.

The genetic scale is not restricted to bad, average and good. It's a scale with many many steps.

I knew I didn't have great genetics once I had completed 3 years of hard training and was still battling with a 14 inch arm, had an injured knee and elbow and no matter how hard I trained/how well I ate/how much I rested, I could not add a single lb to my lifts following traditional "mag" routines.

monkeybiker · 11-01-2009, 03:05 PM

If you had way above average genetics you wouldn't have to ask.

I know people are saying you can't use it as an exuse but you should be aware of it because how you should train is not going to be the same as how a pro trains.

Everybody is different so you need to train your own way.

**Kaboom** · 11-01-2009, 08:30 PM

So all the pros are just a big group of people with great genetics?

**Demon Knight** · 11-02-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaboom

So all the pros are just a big group of people with great genetics?

Maybe not great but certainly not average or below average.

Many people, especially on forums and magazines, state "I'm only average genetically" and "I am 100% natural", it makes their achievement look all the greater. Many of them are neither, some are one or the other.

You can't turn a John Cleese into a Lou Ferrigno just by nutrition and training, no matter how perfect these variables may be. You have to have potential (and drugs in this case). It might not be the greatest potential, but potential nonetheless.

It is probable the reason bodybuilders don't like to say "I've got the genetics" or "I'm taking steroids" is because it's viewed as an easy path. This is not true. On a bodybuilding stage, it's the best vs the best. You have to work damn hard to earn your place there, perhaps harder than others.

I don't expect most bodybuilders will understand how difficult it is if you have no gift to put on a few lbs of muscle. It would be like trying to run with the likes of Bolt or Powell, they probably won't understand how you can be so slow! Hence, the usual "genetics are just excuses". Goals are good, but they must be realistic.

A natural weight trainer that achieves a true 15'' cold lean arm is doing very well, yet most literature (if it can be classified as such) leads you to believe anything below 18" and you're just messing about.

101bodybuilder · 11-02-2009, 02:37 PM

Whats with everyone obsession with the size of your arm i would rather have monster quads and calves than a huge arm.

**Kaboom** · 11-02-2009, 05:52 PM

Im on steroids and have ****ty genetics!!!!!!!!! lol

pottsy09 · 11-02-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Demon Knight

Maybe not great but certainly not average or below average.

Many people, especially on forums and magazines, state "I'm only average genetically" and "I am 100% natural", it makes their achievement look all the greater. Many of them are neither, some are one or the other.

You can't turn a John Cleese into a Lou Ferrigno just by nutrition and training, no matter how perfect these variables may be. You have to have potential (and drugs in this case). It might not be the greatest potential, but potential nonetheless.

It is probable the reason bodybuilders don't like to say "I've got the genetics" or "I'm taking steroids" is because it's viewed as an easy path. This is not true. On a bodybuilding stage, it's the best vs the best. You have to work damn hard to earn your place there, perhaps harder than others.

I don't expect most bodybuilders will understand how difficult it is if you have no gift to put on a few lbs of muscle. It would be like trying to run with the likes of Bolt or Powell, they probably won't understand how you can be so slow! Hence, the usual "genetics are just excuses". Goals are good, but they must be realistic.

A natural weight trainer that achieves a true 15'' cold lean arm is doing very well, yet most literature (if it can be classified as such) leads you to believe anything below 18" and you're just messing about.

is a 15" arm cold actually good for a natural mate??

thats what i am cold and i thought that was crap and it depressed me lol, im also lean enough as well lol.

**Demon Knight** · 11-03-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pottsy09

is a 15" arm cold actually good for a natural mate??

thats what i am cold and i thought that was crap and it depressed me lol, im also lean enough as well lol.

Well, for one bodyfat counts (a 15" arm at 20%bf is nothing to shout about) and height too (a 15" arm on a 5'5'' person looks far more impressive than on a 6'5'' person).

For an average 5'9'' person at 10%bf approx, a 15'' flexed, cold arm is very good! A 16'' arm looks huge and a 17-18" arm is a figure only a few naturals will ever achieve, lean anyway.

If you are lean with 15'' arms and of average/below average height, then you are doing very well for a natural bodybuilder!

Kaboom, you look awesome mate, drugs or no drugs

gym_junkie · 11-04-2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Demon Knight

Well, for one bodyfat counts (a 15" arm at 20%bf is nothing to shout about) and height too (a 15" arm on a 5'5'' person looks far more impressive than on a 6'5'' person).

For an average 5'9'' person at 10%bf approx, a 15'' flexed, cold arm is very good! A 16'' arm looks huge and a 17-18" arm is a figure only a few naturals will ever achieve, lean anyway.

If you are lean with 15'' arms and of average/below average height, then you are doing very well for a natural bodybuilder!

Kaboom, you look awesome mate, drugs or no drugs

I have 16.5" arms and I am lean at 5'3" with 1 year training
Does that mean I have good genetics?

**Kaboom** · 11-04-2009, 06:22 AM

means you have a pretty decent arm lol

**Demon Knight** · 11-04-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gym_junkie

I have 16.5" arms and I am lean at 5'3" with 1 year training
Does that mean I have good genetics?

If you are natural and that's an honest measurement of an unpumped, lean, flexed arm, then yes, you have good genetics....in fact, for your height, you have great genetics!