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Old 04-02-2008, 07:00 PM   #1
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dont laugh....500lbs bench raw

i havent went super heavy in a few years and ive just gotten back into it a few weeks back after a long time off. i had a nagging delt injury that has gotten better, but still there. ive gotten 415lbs raw when i was at 235lbs around 7%bf (now 260ish), but heres the BIG problem-i have VERY long arms for someone 6'4" lol..i felt like i could go up considerably, but its a scary road that im still going down..i was gonna try it a couple years ago when i was around 310lbs, but i hurt my shoulder after racking a frt squat somehow!?!? im cutting down now, but i wanna start a plan for when the time is right this fall

so to the pwr lifters/heavy bbers-

how would you guys approach a bulking season for two main goals:

A)gain a shit ton of mass

B) raw 500lbs bench
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:03 PM   #2
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look into westide barbell!! i posted a thread on it a while back
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:34 PM   #3
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well i thought you were insane and crazy until i read that you got 415lbs before.
i'd say, you'll definatly put up 500lbs if you set your mind to it.

don't give up. you can do it.
and make a thread when you do.

that's a shit load of weight.

my goal is just 315lbs for 6 reps for life.

i can't even do 1 right now.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:47 PM   #4
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sick goal, keep your mindset, and be patient...you'll get there.
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Old 04-02-2008, 11:19 PM   #5
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well i thought you were insane and crazy until i read that you got 415lbs before.
i'd say, you'll definatly put up 500lbs if you set your mind to it.

don't give up. you can do it.
and make a thread when you do.

that's a shit load of weight.

my goal is just 315lbs for 6 reps for life.

i can't even do 1 right now.
lol @ insane. yeah, ill post a youtube after i get it. im usually not a "max out" guy...500lbs has always beem my goal, my best reps was 365lbs for 8 reps, but when i got over the 400lbs threshold the injury was reaggravated
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:49 AM   #6
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Man that's a lot, if I got 365 lbs once I'd think I'm the biggest man in the world haha.
 
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:49 AM   #7
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wow thats alot...brolic X 10 lol
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:01 PM   #8
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I'd say low reps, high weight, and high intensity. Well, that's the weightlifter way of doing it. You'll gain strength and not much mass.

1 to 3 reps with near max weight. The more reps the smaller the weight but keep it near your max. That is, for example, at 1 rep maybe 95% of your max, while at 2 reps 90% of your max, and at 3 reps 85% of your max (just examples, better to say whatever you're comfortable with). Also, if you hit a cap, work on supporting muscle groups (i.e triceps, deltoids, etc) to help you with bench press.
 
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:23 PM   #9
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I'd say low reps, high weight, and high intensity. Well, that's the weightlifter way of doing it. You'll gain strength and not much mass.

1 to 3 reps with near max weight. The more reps the smaller the weight but keep it near your max. That is, for example, at 1 rep maybe 95% of your max, while at 2 reps 90% of your max, and at 3 reps 85% of your max (just examples, better to say whatever you're comfortable with). Also, if you hit a cap, work on supporting muscle groups (i.e triceps, deltoids, etc) to help you with bench press.

listen to the advice i got recently. it was to find the weight you can handle for 3-4 reps and try to get 5 sets, more up 5-10lbs repeat. every third workout-max out day. it was from a pwrlifter.
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:36 PM   #10
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Yea, I see what you're saying, that works too. I'm a weightlifter so I like intensity and explosive strength more than mass. The 1 to 3 reps is pure strength. What the powerlifter is telling you is the following: 3-5 reps for a combination of mass and strength. The higher the number of reps, the more the focus on mass. I do agree, however, that you need to test your 1 rep max fairly often since that's the way to measure your progress (in this specific case).

For me, maxing out happens once every week but I train with a high intensity and sub-max weights. The powerlifter is right; max out relatively frequently since when you're doing 3-5 reps it's hard to go near your max. If you can do near your max at 3-5 reps, then your max is higher than you think it is (theoretically speaking, that is).

I disagree with real number values on anything, though. If you can increase 5-10 lbs then that's great. It all depends on how you feel on that specific day. As long as you constantly increase, then you're making progress, which is what you're aiming for in the first place.

One thing I forgot to mention that you talked about at the beginning - long arms. I'm 6'3 with fairly long arms as well, so I know where you're coming from. This is directly from weightlifting but it works anywhere. Tall guys have an advantage in the snatch. All we do is grip wider so that the distance the bar travels vertically is shorter. Do that with your bench. Grip the bar wider so the vertical distance it moves up and down is shorter. Keep in mind, grip it so that it's comfortable, you don't want to injure yourself.
 
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