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Old 03-30-2008, 07:33 PM   #91
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Zack, should we advance it though? Should we continue thinking like this? Just because it is there and has been there for a long time doesnt mean we have to live by it.
 
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Old 03-30-2008, 07:36 PM   #92
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If we do that it's just gonna turn into like moorey said a while back.

People are gonna start hating for eye color and for penis size and how floppy their hair is.

It's like hating EMO kids. They're diff and we're diff. It's just the way it is, but they tend to not like us for what we do and we tend to not like them for what they do.

I doubt it's going to change, but I'll agree we can help it.

You also have to think about the diff types of people here. I've been everything you can name. I've seen each side of it from every angle. It's not stopping.
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Old 03-30-2008, 08:01 PM   #93
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I am of one opinion, and that is we shouldn't look at things that we dislike and do them ourselves. We shouldn't be hypocritical.

If a person doesnt like what you aspire to look like, its not THEIR fault. Its not yours either. You have to realize people will have differences of opinions, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Its what makes life so interesting.

But, when someone doesnt think like you do, and even expresses that it is gross to them, you shouldn't turn around and criticize them for their "imperfections" in your eyes. You are being hypocritical, and worse yet, you are talking about them behind their backs when they actually voiced their opinions up front. Then you come here to look for support, and i see the whole "yar, we lift heavy weights, we are much better then them! YAR" ideal being furthered and its kinda sickening.


Yes, lifting weights is a healthy endeavor, but realize that a pro bodybuilder puts as much stress if not more (id venture to say more) on their body than someone who doesnt lifts weights at all.
 
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:12 PM   #94
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'Just because it is there and has been there for a long time doesnt mean we have to live by it.'

Totally. I dont know what Moorey said before. People all already hating penis size and floopy hair. I think it just come down to insecurities. Be who you feel you want to be and look how you want to look. Society and history has directed and clouded our judgement so much on what and how things 'should' be, its disgusting. I agree with Frosty rise above these ridiculous/discriminating, stereotyping, profiling and treat yourself and others what you really feel in your heart is right and dont let others judements become your own and fuck what other people think.

When I read this thread I wasnt thinking about people who bodybuild for a hobby. I think of the people who are being judged and talked about in this thread and refered to as 'gross' being the pro bodybuilders. When that happens they are probably in competiontion form and flexing there ass off. I think its when you see someone flex and all the striations and defintion shows that people get a bit shocked. I think this answer of 'gross' is just a shocked answer. Its easier to show 'hate' or 'disgust' then appreciation I think for most people. I have never heard or seen ridicule on overly muscular guys around town, ever. Are some of you getting this judegment? I didnt realize you guys were that big. I think it some of it comes down to steriod use. Because of steriods regular people dont know how big a person can naturally become. If you go past a point of looking 'natural' peoples opinion change. But people also looking at super skinny anorexic people and say 'thats gross' its just easier to be and more common place to see a anorexic girl or guy then a over muscular. ahhh something like that I think I need to go take a english class I have the hardest time typing what i mean! lol hope that makes sence.
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Old 03-30-2008, 11:23 PM   #95
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'Just because it is there and has been there for a long time doesnt mean we have to live by it.'

Totally. I dont know what Moorey said before. but people all already hating penis size and floopy hair. I think it just come down to insecurities. Be who you feel you want to be (and look). Society and history has directed and clouded our judgement so much on what and how things 'should' be its disgusting. I agree with Frosty rise above these ridiculous/discriminating sterotyping profiling and treat yourself and others what you really feel in your heart is right and dont let others judements become your own and fuck what other people think.

When I read this thread I wasnt thinking people who bodybuild for a hobby and overly muscular people. I think of the people who are being judged and refered to as 'gross' being the pro bodybuilders. And when that happens they are probably in competiontion form and flexing there ass off. I think its when you see someone flex and all the striations and defintion shows that people get a bit shocked. And i think this answer of 'gross' is just a shocked answer. Its easier to show 'hate' or 'disgust' then appreciation I think for most people. Again back to ^^ that discussion. I have never heard or seen ridicule on overly muscular guys around town, ever. Are some of you getting this judegment? I didnt realize you guys were that big. I think it some of it comes down to steriod use. Because of steriods regular people dont know how big a person can become naturally. These are natural bodies but if you go past that point of looking 'natural' peoples opinion change. But people also looking at super skinny anorexic people and say 'thats gross' its just easier to be and more common place to see a anorexic girl or guy then a over muscular. ahhh something like that I think I need to go take a english class I have the hardest time typing what i mean! lol hope that makes sence.
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Old 03-30-2008, 11:58 PM   #96
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huge diss wow. i just have a tendency to type to much and go back and edit but im not a very good editer. english wasnt my first language but ive been speaking it most of my life. ya my grammer sucks.
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Old 03-31-2008, 12:05 AM   #97
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it's aight Islander. You speak it very well :)
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:19 AM   #98
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huge diss wow. i just have a tendency to type to much and go back and edit but im not a very good editer. english wasnt my first language but ive been speaking it most of my life. ya my grammer sucks.
It wasnt an intentional diss, it was just weird to see someone comment that they needed to take an English class to type coherently on a forum.

Maybe THAT was a diss, lol.
 
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Old 03-31-2008, 05:07 PM   #99
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i just hate when people that can bench like the bar with 10 inch arms say "i dont wanna get big like that". its like well you have nothing to worry about right now so lift hard. they use it as an excuse
 
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:26 PM   #100
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i like this thread lol!
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:23 AM   #101
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truth is people that no matter what you do, someone truly outstanding in this world will have to overcome sheer adversity before they find support from the masses, guys hate big guys because of intimidation, some girls dont like brolic guys because they are against the norm (that being said the majority of women are a hard-to-please bunch) those who dream and the great achievers always exhaust the masses. i know for a fact that if i took on everything that people said that was negative, i dont think id be here today, just remember that these people will never understand the sacrifice, the determination and the persistence that is the core foundation of bbding. then again like a lot of people said its good to find a happy medium.
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